Actual lift capacity mx 5400

   / Actual lift capacity mx 5400 #31  
Also please don't forget that your tractors front axle is on a single center pivot pin. So if you try to lift a load that is unbalanced or the ground slopes a bit one direction, you can easily raise a rear tire off of the ground. You can easily have one of those heavy rear loaded tires 2 foot off of the ground in a fraction of a second. Your two front tires are on the ground but one of your rear tires is off of the ground because the entire tractor pivoted around that pin because of an unbalanced condition.

Which can even be caused by running over a rock or dropping into a hole. It looks like you have 4 solid tires and wheels at the 4 corners of the tractor. How can it tip over so fast? Because the tractor rolls around that pivot pin and one tire comes up. Solution? Proper 3 point ballast.

I have even had both back tires 2 foot off of the ground, by not having ENOUGH rear ballast on the 3 point hitch even though I had loaded tires. It was kind of puzzling, I kept trying to lift this big rock I had chained into my bucket, but when I pulled back on the stick, it kept sinking to the ground. The wife was yelling something about my wheels being off of the ground. They sure were. If there had been the slightest imbalance side to side in the load, the tractor would have likely tipped over on its side.

If you remember nothing else from all of this, remember ALWAYS keep your loads as close to the ground as possible, travel slowly with heavy loads, and if you do need to lift them high, make sure you are on flat ground, and stopped when you lift and inch forward to dump them. Height=DANGER. Lots of people like to show off by raising some load up high, try NOT to do that. And if you expect to do any heavy lifting at all, always have proper ballast on your 3 point hitch. It can save your life, or at least prevent damage to you and your machine.
 
   / Actual lift capacity mx 5400 #32  
LD1 and KU0A, as you know, this topic pops up often and has generated some epic debates as people struggle to grasp tire ballast vs. 3 pt ballast. You guys have done the best job I have seen in explaining things in a clear, sensible way. Attaboy's to both of you!
 
   / Actual lift capacity mx 5400 #33  
LD1 and KU0A, as you know, this topic pops up often and has generated some epic debates as people struggle to grasp tire ballast vs. 3 pt ballast. You guys have done the best job I have seen in explaining things in a clear, sensible way. Attaboy's to both of you!
Thank you. You are right, it does come up often and its surprising how many think tire ballast alone is enough.

K0UA is a poser.....he abandoned ship and got the "other" orange brand.... :ROFLMAO:

(Been awhile since I have given him a hard time about that)
 
   / Actual lift capacity mx 5400 #34  
I thought about a grapple bucket was almost gonna buy one for my X5100. I got some great advice from a friend, he said buy pallet folks. They weight less than a grapple, cost less than a grapple, and do about the same job. My pallet folks on on
my tractor more than my bucket. I have never regretted the decision to for go the grapple, and the pallet forks do not require a third function button on the joy stick.
I was told a similar thing only about a 4 in 1 bucket.

I got the 4 in 1.

I love mine.
 
   / Actual lift capacity mx 5400 #35  
I was told a similar thing only about a 4 in 1 bucket.

I got the 4 in 1.

I love mine.
Anyone that thinks pallet forks do the same work as a grapple are in the same group as those that think a slip scoop will replace a FEL.
In either case there is a bit of functional overlap, but not much.
 
   / Actual lift capacity mx 5400 #36  
Excellent analogy.

I have both grapple and forks.

I use the forks for moving pallets and IBC totes. Would never even consider the notion of taking them to the woods for brush/logs or moving rocks/boulders
 
   / Actual lift capacity mx 5400 #37  
LD1 and KU0A, as you know, this topic pops up often and has generated some epic debates as people struggle to grasp tire ballast vs. 3 pt ballast. You guys have done the best job I have seen in explaining things in a clear, sensible way. Attaboy's to both of you!
Several ys ago I took my M7040/liquid ballast & cast rear wheels/FEL/bale fork & 2 rd bales to a public scale. Below was the results with & without rear counterbalance.

That trip to the scale convinced me that much less strain is exerted on frt axle when counterbalance is in place
Frt tires only on scale with bale on frt and bale on the rear 5380#s
Frt tires only on scale with bale on frt nothing on the rear except bale fork 5990#s
610#s less weight exerted on frt tires/axle on scale with about 1000#s of counterbalance
 
   / Actual lift capacity mx 5400 #38  
Several ys ago I took my M7040/liquid ballast & cast rear wheels/FEL/bale fork & 2 rd bales to a public scale. Below was the results with & without rear counterbalance.

That trip to the scale convinced me that much less strain is exerted on frt axle when counterbalance is in place
Frt tires only on scale with bale on frt and bale on the rear 5380#s
Frt tires only on scale with bale on frt nothing on the rear except bale fork 5990#s
610#s less weight exerted on frt tires/axle on scale with about 1000#s of counterbalance
610# less on front with that counterballance and that would be considered on the smaller side of counterballance for that machine.

I think I remember that thread too. I was thinking you couldnt believe it would make much difference.
 
   / Actual lift capacity mx 5400 #39  
Thank you. You are right, it does come up often and its surprising how many think tire ballast alone is enough.

K0UA is a poser.....he abandoned ship and got the "other" orange brand.... :ROFLMAO:

(Been awhile since I have given him a hard time about that)
Yeah, and your the kind of guy that would photoshop spots on a mans deer too. And it was a perfectly good southern deer...er... jackrabbit... :)
 
   / Actual lift capacity mx 5400 #40  
610# less on front with that counterballance and that would be considered on the smaller side of counterballance for that machine.

I think I remember that thread too. I was thinking you couldnt believe it would make much difference.
1000lb counterweight centered 36" behind the lift pins isn't a small counterweight. The center of load dimension is significant.
 

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