Adding 4wd to YM2310

[rScotty]

I hear you on slippery slopes. There just isn't an answer to using a FEL with 2wd on much of a slope.
The reason is simply that all the weight is out front which lifts the rear wheels ....turning poor traction into no traction.

I went to wide tires and ran chains all the time. Eventually I made up a set of really good fitting automotive chains that fit like skins on wider rear tires and that helped some. A friend of mine went one step farther on his heavy Massey 2wd. His Massey didn't have power steering so a FEL would have been pointless even if he had been able to find a subframe for his tractor and then find a front end loader to fit that, beefed up the hydraulics. etc.

So instead of all that and still ending up with an FEL on a 2wd, he put a reversible dirt scoop on the 3pt. That put the weight over the driving wheels, lightened the steering, and he got by for 20 years. I used to kid him that his solution was just good enough to keep him from ever getting a decent 4wd tractor with loader.

Back in the day when all tractors were 2wd, it was rare to see a Front End Loader on any tractor. What you are experiencing is probably why loaders never got popular back then. In fact, a lot of tractors up until fairly recently didn't even have the necessary frames for mounting loaders. Most tractors were a connected series of castings from front to back. The axle pivoted on the front of the engine casting and the rear axles stuck out the sides of the aftermost casting.....with a cast bell housing bolted to a cast transmission inbetween. So not only was there no loader, there wasn't even a place to mount one. The solution to that was to buy an aftermarket steel sub-frame to connect the front and back of the tractor together. Those subframes were specific to each tractor.

A 3pt reversible dirt scoop isn't such a bad solution.

rScotty

 

[bmaverick]

I hear you on slippery slopes. There just isn't an answer to using a FEL with 2wd on much of a slope.
The reason is simply that all the weight is out front which lifts the rear wheels ....turning poor traction into no traction.

I went to wide tires and ran chains all the time. Eventually I made up a set of really good fitting automotive chains that fit like skins on wider rear tires and that helped some. A friend of mine went one step farther on his heavy Massey 2wd. His Massey didn't have power steering so a FEL would have been pointless even if he had been able to find a subframe for his tractor and then find a front end loader to fit that, beefed up the hydraulics. etc.

So instead of all that and still ending up with an FEL on a 2wd, he put a reversible dirt scoop on the 3pt. That put the weight over the driving wheels, lightened the steering, and he got by for 20 years. I used to kid him that his solution was just good enough to keep him from ever getting a decent 4wd tractor with loader.

Back in the day when all tractors were 2wd, it was rare to see a Front End Loader on any tractor. What you are experiencing is probably why loaders never got popular back then. In fact, a lot of tractors up until fairly recently didn't even have the necessary frames for mounting loaders. Most tractors were a connected series of castings from front to back. The axle pivoted on the front of the engine casting and the rear axles stuck out the sides of the aftermost casting.....with a cast bell housing bolted to a cast transmission inbetween. So not only was there no loader, there wasn't even a place to mount one. The solution to that was to buy an aftermarket steel sub-frame to connect the front and back of the tractor together. Those subframes were specific to each tractor.

A 3pt reversible dirt scoop isn't such a bad solution. View attachment 738681

rScotty

Even a 3PT REL is a good option too. It behaves like a FEL, but in the back. A bit more ability than a pond scoop. Each has their strengths.

A 3PT REL has a strong advantage, the bucket comes off/on easily.

With a hydraulic top-link, variable dumping tilt can be had.

 

[careyo63]

I hear you on slippery slopes. There just isn't an answer to using a FEL with 2wd on much of a slope.
The reason is simply that all the weight is out front which lifts the rear wheels ....turning poor traction into no traction.

I went to wide tires and ran chains all the time. Eventually I made up a set of really good fitting automotive chains that fit like skins on wider rear tires and that helped some. A friend of mine went one step farther on his heavy Massey 2wd. His Massey didn't have power steering so a FEL would have been pointless even if he had been able to find a subframe for his tractor and then find a front end loader to fit that, beefed up the hydraulics. etc.

So instead of all that and still ending up with an FEL on a 2wd, he put a reversible dirt scoop on the 3pt. That put the weight over the driving wheels, lightened the steering, and he got by for 20 years. I used to kid him that his solution was just good enough to keep him from ever getting a decent 4wd tractor with loader.

Back in the day when all tractors were 2wd, it was rare to see a Front End Loader on any tractor. What you are experiencing is probably why loaders never got popular back then. In fact, a lot of tractors up until fairly recently didn't even have the necessary frames for mounting loaders. Most tractors were a connected series of castings from front to back. The axle pivoted on the front of the engine casting and the rear axles stuck out the sides of the aftermost casting.....with a cast bell housing bolted to a cast transmission inbetween. So not only was there no loader, there wasn't even a place to mount one. The solution to that was to buy an aftermarket steel sub-frame to connect the front and back of the tractor together. Those subframes were specific to each tractor.

A 3pt reversible dirt scoop isn't such a bad solution. View attachment 738681

rScotty

I have the same Rear scoop. Use it on the 2wd YM2000 and never cared to have a FEL. since. Many Hrs. on the JD. with one and not having the loader up front while mowing is the biggest plus or using any rear implement for that matter. Besides a few hundred dollars new to a few Thousand. Had it a while.............. Extra set of pins added is well worth it for easy reversing.

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