Trailer Purchasing Advise

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Sitting on flat concrete, no load, the bottom of the supports should be 6" off the
Great point and Question, the answer is Yes the supports are "short" enough to lower when the trailer is loaded and they do sit just forward, with the front edge in front of the pivot pin/bar.

I am glad you mentioned the supports sitting 6in "high" unloaded because when I first dropped the ramps to load I thought "Oh No!, my supports are to short!" As I was loading they did bottom out and the truck suspension only flexed up slightly. I went ahead and cut several 2 x 6 "spacers" to keep with the trailer just incase the next loading zone is not ideally level. Certainly more possible to add spacers, than to shorten supports!

I'll snap a few more pics on the next loading occasion.
 
   / Trailer Purchasing Advise #92  
Great point and Question, the answer is Yes the supports are "short" enough to lower when the trailer is loaded and they do sit just forward, with the front edge in front of the pivot pin/bar.

I am glad you mentioned the supports sitting 6in "high" unloaded because when I first dropped the ramps to load I thought "Oh No!, my supports are to short!" As I was loading they did bottom out and the truck suspension only flexed up slightly. I went ahead and cut several 2 x 6 "spacers" to keep with the trailer just incase the next loading zone is not ideally level. Certainly more possible to add spacers, than to shorten supports!

I'll snap a few more pics on the next loading occasion.
My Son recently bought a used trailer with ramps as yours. First thing we did was shorten them. He carries two blocks but hasn't used them.

Glad yours are working for you!!!!
 
   / Trailer Purchasing Advise #93  
A big trailer can haul small loads. A small trailer can not haul big loads. My son and his F-150 hauling a young ladies little Ford car. He doesn't have air bags yet, but I've told him to save and get them....
It's a 20+2 Iron Bull 14k equipment trailer.
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   / Trailer Purchasing Advise #94  
And a gooseneck would be much worse when it comes to going around tight corners or backing into tight spots.

Everyone raves on goosenecks because of how they tow and some people try and really push them. But they are a whole different animal.
A gooseneck is actually better for me than a bumper pull. My guess is you haven’t much experiance with them?
 
   / Trailer Purchasing Advise #95  
A gooseneck is actually better for me than a bumper pull. My guess is you haven’t much experiance with them?
You would be guessing wrong.

Own both. As I have said...some cases the BP is better. Some cases the GN is better. Not sure why that is such a hard concept to grasp? Too many diehard GN-only type people that cannot concede that there are times a BP trumps a GN....like pulling into or out of a narrow driveway for example.
 
   / Trailer Purchasing Advise #96  
You would be guessing wrong.

Own both. As I have said...some cases the BP is better. Some cases the GN is better. Not sure why that is such a hard concept to grasp? Too many diehard GN-only type people that cannot concede that there are times a BP trumps a GN....like pulling into or out of a narrow driveway for example.
Having both myself I understand what your saying but as the statement I replied to was written it seemed very uninformed and wasn’t till later posts that you clarified your statement.
For me I honestly haven’t had any issue getting into tight spaces with a GN and getting in and out of my own storage yard being the absolute tightest I can get the GN in with a lot less struggle than my BP.
 
   / Trailer Purchasing Advise #97  
Having both myself I understand what your saying but as the statement I replied to was written it seemed very uninformed and wasn’t till later posts that you clarified your statement.
For me I honestly haven’t had any issue getting into tight spaces with a GN and getting in and out of my own storage yard being the absolute tightest I can get the GN in with a lot less struggle than my BP.
Take a GN and a BP of equal lengths.

Set some cones up to simulate a 90° like pulling off a road into a driveway.

See which one can make a tighter turn into a narrower driveway without crushing cones (which in reality would run the axles over a culvert or mailbox).
 
   / Trailer Purchasing Advise #98  
Take a GN and a BP of equal lengths.

Set some cones up to simulate a 90° like pulling off a road into a driveway.

See which one can make a tighter turn into a narrower driveway without crushing cones (which in reality would run the axles over a culvert or mailbox).
I drive every day, I haul a trailer, I have to back trailers multiple times a day around things way more valuable then cones and don’t seem to have issue. Most of my driving is with a much bigger truck than most here ever drive and trailers that require a lot more room to get in or out. So towing with my pick up truck and getting in or out of tight spots doesn’t seem to be a problem, haven’t hit anything since I was. Teenager and always seem to be able to get into the place I am going weather backing in or going in forward.
I prefer a GN over a BP for 99% of my uses so when your ready with those cones come over and set them up! We will have a cook out and some beers watch the neighbors struggle between trying different things with each then you and I can see who can get in and out of my storage lot repeatedly with both and forget the cones, I will line up the entrance area with some expensive cars and the looser who hits them pays for beers, steaks and repairs?
 
   / Trailer Purchasing Advise #99  
I drive every day, I haul a trailer, I have to back trailers multiple times a day around things way more valuable then cones and don’t seem to have issue. Most of my driving is with a much bigger truck than most here ever drive and trailers that require a lot more room to get in or out. So towing with my pick up truck and getting in or out of tight spots doesn’t seem to be a problem, haven’t hit anything since I was. Teenager and always seem to be able to get into the place I am going weather backing in or going in forward.
I prefer a GN over a BP for 99% of my uses so when your ready with those cones come over and set them up! We will have a cook out and some beers watch the neighbors struggle between trying different things with each then you and I can see who can get in and out of my storage lot repeatedly with both and forget the cones, I will line up the entrance area with some expensive cars and the looser who hits them pays for beers, steaks and repairs?
If it involves a 90° turn a BP of equal length will do it in a tighter area. If its a 180° turn the GN will win with the ability to jacknife.

Its not even a debate. There is only one right answer.

This is a driveway I CANNOT get a GN into. The drive is too narrow and the road isnt wide enough to not have the GN axles stay on the drive. And its a 3' deep ditch on the opposite side and its a narrow country road
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While challenging, this driveway is doable with a BP due to its nature to follow the tow vehicle better rather than cut corners and end up wrapped around a concrete pillar.

Its clear you dont believe me, thats fine. You are entitled to your incorrect opinion.
 
   / Trailer Purchasing Advise #100  
If it involves a 90° turn a BP of equal length will do it in a tighter area. If its a 180° turn the GN will win with the ability to jacknife.

Its not even a debate. There is only one right answer.

This is a driveway I CANNOT get a GN into. The drive is too narrow and the road isnt wide enough to not have the GN axles stay on the drive. And its a 3' deep ditch on the opposite side and its a narrow country road
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While challenging, this driveway is doable with a BP due to its nature to follow the tow vehicle better rather than cut corners and end up wrapped around a concrete pillar.

Its clear you dont believe me, thats fine. You are entitled to your incorrect opinion.
If you think that is tight you need to come visit and see mine!

By the way, It’s clear you have no understanding of my opinion !

I think it’s funny you got all but hurt over my response to your first post. Which clearly didn’t give your point correctly and my offer for steaks and beer would only give us something to laugh at while my incompetent neighbors entertain us. I sincerely doubt ethier one of us would have to worry about hitting anything but making it tight would serve for both of us to prove we have merits to what we say. So who is wrong here? I look at your photo and can assure one thing, that is I wouldn’t fret over which trailer I decided to bring as I could get in there with anything that I have that attaches to my pick up truck!
No go figure how and we will both be correct!
 

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