Why no Ecoboost in the F250?

hiddentacocatneddih · Sep 17, 2022

Hay Dude said:
I got to have my power windows, locks and AC. Power drivers seat with ventilation is a nice option to have, too.
But a 5.9L at about 250HP/600TQ makes for a really sweet puller.

After having a truck with a broke power lock actuator in the door, I'll pass.

That being said, I could go without door locks all together.

Sawyer Rob · Sep 17, 2022

Hay Dude said:
Oh for the love of……
Guessing you didn’t read the link? Stellantis owns Chrysler, too (and Jeep and Dodge…..)

“The principal activity of Stellantis is the design, development, manufacture and sale of automobiles bearing its 16 brands of Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Citroën, Dodge, DS, Fiat, Fiat Professional, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, Mopar, Opel, Peugeot, Ram and Vauxhall. At the time of the merger, Stellantis had approximately 300,000 employees, a presence in more than 130 countries with manufacturing facilities in 30 countries.”

Does that clear it up for you?

BINGO! The money still goes to the same place, a dodge is a dodge is a dodge!

Like I said, I now own my last one and when it's gone, no more dodges for me.

SR

Renze · Sep 17, 2022

shredxcam said:
All i want is a 5.9 cummins with a p-pump, g56 trans, basic radio and hand crank windows in a 2022 body.

It costs too much to develop, in relation to the numbers to be sold in that execution...

The problem for manufacturers is, that they need to sell brand new vehicles, to people who have the money to buy them..
People who are satisfied with 20 year old technology, are usually the ones with money for a 10 year old truck, so these trucks will never be available as 10 year old used trucks, if there is noone who will buy them brand new...

Case chose to introduce the Magnum with powershift only, and not to make the Vari-Torque prototype of the early 80s (the power split type CVT which Fendt introduced in 1996, coincidently the year that the IH patent expired after 25 years) or to calibrate the tooling of the Rock Island, Illinois IH plant after moving the entire line to the former Case factory in Racine, Wisconsin to make the Synchro-tri-six transmission of the 5488 again, because they ran out of money.... field validation is a costly proces, even if individual components are already on the shelf...

hiddentacocatneddih · Sep 17, 2022

Renze said:
It costs too much to develop, in relation to the numbers to be sold in that execution...

The problem for manufacturers is, that they need to sell brand new vehicles, to people who have the money to buy them..
People who are satisfied with 20 year old technology, are usually the ones with money for a 10 year old truck, so these trucks will never be available as 10 year old used trucks, if there is noone who will buy them brand new...

Case chose to introduce the Magnum with powershift only, and not to make the Vari-Torque prototype of the early 80s (the power split type CVT which Fendt introduced in 1996, coincidently the year that the IH patent expired after 25 years) or to calibrate the tooling of the Rock Island, Illinois IH plant after moving the entire line to the former Case factory in Racine, Wisconsin to make the Synchro-tri-six transmission of the 5488 again, because they ran out of money.... field validation is a costly proces, even if individual components are already on the shelf...

Yea, i plan on keep my 2006 cummins till diesel is no longer available at the pump

Renze · Sep 17, 2022

shredxcam said:
Yea, i plan on keep my 2006 cummins till diesel is no longer available at the pump

I had to retire my S70 TDI at 565.000km because VW does no longer sell a crank position sensor for it. It used less oil than my current 2007 V70 though using 5w/40 wear reducing, instead of 0w/30 fuel saving oil already reduced it from 1 liter per 2500km to 1 liter per 15.000km...

All these fuel saving, long life engine oils dont save engines nor make them live longer. Those prescriptions are written for bean counters, by bean counters, to make scheduled maintenance costs look good for large fleetowners.

hiddentacocatneddih · Sep 17, 2022

Renze said:
I had to retire my S70 TDI at 565.000km because VW does no longer sell a crank position sensor for it. It used less oil than my current 2007 V70 though using 5w/40 wear reducing, instead of 0w/30 fuel saving oil already reduced it from 1 liter per 2500km to 1 liter per 15.000km...

All these fuel saving, long life engine oils dont save engines nor make them live longer. Those prescriptions are written for bean counters, by bean counters, to make scheduled maintenance costs look good for large fleetowners.

The mentality is build a crappier and crappier product that last a shorter time. People are to stupid and will still buy it.

apple even got caught red handed nerfing batteries in phone via software to force obsolete them and people stil buy them

Hay Dude · Sep 17, 2022

Sawyer Rob said:
BINGO! The money still goes to the same place, a dodge is a dodge is a dodge!

Like I said, I now own my last one and when it's gone, no more dodges for me.

SR

Good. We don’t need any more debbie downers in the Ram club.

Hay Dude · Sep 17, 2022

Renze said:
It costs too much to develop, in relation to the numbers to be sold in that execution...

The problem for manufacturers is, that they need to sell brand new vehicles, to people who have the money to buy them..
People who are satisfied with 20 year old technology, are usually the ones with money for a 10 year old truck, so these trucks will never be available as 10 year old used trucks, if there is noone who will buy them brand new...

Case chose to introduce the Magnum with powershift only, and not to make the Vari-Torque prototype of the early 80s (the power split type CVT which Fendt introduced in 1996, coincidently the year that the IH patent expired after 25 years) or to calibrate the tooling of the Rock Island, Illinois IH plant after moving the entire line to the former Case factory in Racine, Wisconsin to make the Synchro-tri-six transmission of the 5488 again, because they ran out of money.... field validation is a costly proces, even if individual components are already on the shelf...