Massey GC vs. Kubota BX Loader Lift Test

polarred21 · Oct 22, 2022

Sorry if already posted. Appears to be a nice unbiased test.

https:www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxd5zlP71q0&t=20s

JWR · Oct 22, 2022

The loader they are showing on the GC is the heavier of the two available for that tractor. SO in that sense there is some bias.

The DL95 for the GC being lighter and less lift is not tested. The Kubota only shows one loader, the LA344. Entirely possible that the DL 95 would be more comparable to the LA344. It appears that what they show is that the GC is offered with a heavier lift FEL while the BX is not. Fine way to test, no complaint but they are somewhat comparing apples and oranges. I would expect that users with a concern about FEL lift capacity would check the specs first and if it really mattered whole bunch, they'd simply buy a bigger tractor.

polarred21 · Oct 26, 2022

I understand. Thanks for the feedback.

cetrac29 · Dec 21, 2022

JWR said:
The loader they are showing on the GC is the heavier of the two available for that tractor. SO in that sense there is some bias.

The DL95 for the GC being lighter and less lift is not tested. The Kubota only shows one loader, the LA344. Entirely possible that the DL 95 would be more comparable to the LA344. It appears that what they show is that the GC is offered with a heavier lift FEL while the BX is not. Fine way to test, no complaint but they are somewhat comparing apples and oranges. I would expect that users with a concern about FEL lift capacity would check the specs first and if it really mattered whole bunch, they'd simply buy a bigger tractor.

It's two sub compacts, each with respective loaders that come with SSQA as standard. Not seeing the bias. The older DL95s came with pin on standard and I believe only SSQA as optional or conversion later in production. The DL95 should lift even better than the FL1805. The video is about as apples to apples as you can get. What the video really shows is that the BX loader sticks out much further due to the curved boom design. That's an operational difference that is also negatively impacting life capacity.

mikester · Dec 22, 2022

You forgot to compare 1/4 mile run times and top speeds

Paper specs are important

WVH1977 · Dec 22, 2022

Maybe I just don't understand but I see a lot of posts about loader lift capacity on these sub-compact tractors. Why is this such a big deal? None of them can pick up but so much weight anyway based on the design and size of the tractor. If lifting capacity is that critical then I would think a forklift or small skid steer would be a better option. IMO loader lift capacity should be just a small part of overall determination on one of these smaller tractors. They are just not designed to move heavy materials all day long. They are made for light yard work and getting into tight areas on smaller yards and some jobs where getting in and out is crucial.

I would be looking at comfort, ease of operation and overall build quality.

Dmacleo · Dec 22, 2022

mikester said:
You forgot to compare 1/4 mile run times and top speeds

Paper specs are important

0 to 60 in as long as it takes to toss on trailer and hit throttle on tow vehicle

JWR · Dec 22, 2022

WVH1977 said:
Maybe I just don't understand but I see a lot of posts about loader lift capacity on these sub-compact tractors. Why is this such a big deal? None of them can pick up but so much weight anyway based on the design and size of the tractor. If lifting capacity is that critical then I would think a forklift or small skid steer would be a better option. IMO loader lift capacity should be just a small part of overall determination on one of these smaller tractors. They are just not designed to move heavy materials all day long. They are made for light yard work and getting into tight areas on smaller yards and some jobs where getting in and out is crucial.

I would be looking at comfort, ease of operation and overall build quality.

Exactly. I agree.

not2old · Dec 22, 2022

When I bought my GC2610 it was the loader capacity and the price that determined my decision. I wish it was able to lift even more, but the next larger tractor with a hoe was nearly 50% more in cost. I've been wondering about increasing the pressures slightly to achieve another 100 lbs in capacity. I'm led to believe my tractor uses the same axle as the GC1710.

LD1 · Dec 22, 2022

Love these threads comparing paper specs (sarcasm)

They will all lift a bucket full of whatever 99% of people want to use them for around the yard. Stone, dirt, mulch, etc.

No one is buying a lawnmower to move pallets. People squabbling over a ~5% difference in lift capacity and fail to see the bigger picture.

If you want more lift capacity, buy a bigger machine.

Its funny, most equipment forums, that talk about things like skidloaders and backhoes, so have endless bickering and comparing of which skidloader will lift more. They all make little ones and they all make big ones and they all lift exactly what they can and no more. There are MANY more things to worry about comparing than the paper specs of the machine.

NO ONE is gonna but a BX and not be able to lift a log and say to themselves "damn I wish I bought the GC instead". Nope. They just gonna cut it a little smaller and get the job done. The difference is so small between these two machines its laughable IMO