New Kioti NX6010 Problems

[landdog49]

I just purchased an NX6010 HST cab (14 hours). It is not the tractor my 14-year-old DK45HST cab is. Yea, it has more horsepower plus major unwanted problems. I was told that the NX had a heavier front axle and was built better than my DK45. Not true. My tractor hesitates when it moves forward or back, then jumps rapidly. My buddy was helping me hook up a 3-point counterweight, and I started to creep back, but it hesitated and then jumped. Luckily, he was not between the tractor and the implement; if so, he would have gotten hurt. Several items that were standard on my DK45 were missing or options on the new NX: the left seat armrest missing, the FEL bucket guide rod is missing, the rear windshield wiper is an option, and a radio faceplate is an option. You would think a 50-grand tractor would have these.

When I went to hook up a hay accumulator/grapple, I could not see over the hood where the face plates were supposed to hook into the implement’s slots. Bing 6ft 2, the only way to see was to sit on the front edge of the seat so I could look over the front end of the hood. Even then, it is hard to see the right side because the 3rd function couplings are in the way. I tried to look outside the FEL arms, but the face plates were not visible. My DK45 is a breeze compared to the NX. On the DK45, the face plates and implement slots are visible directly in front of you and on the outside of the FEL arms. I will say the 2 pin-locking system is much better than the single-arm locking on the DK45.

The four-wheel drive will not engage. The dealer just told me there is a factor recall because there is a ground problem on the four-wheel button – plus a recall on the hydrostatic transmission. Now I am asking myself what I gained by buying the 50 grand NX.

If you get a third-function valve, be sure the couplings match your attachments. Mine came with poppet (Pioneer) fittings. My attachments are flat-faced so it cost me nearly 100 bucks to change them out. I prefer the flat face because they connect easier and are easier to keep clean. A dirt dauber can build a nest in the female poppet fitting. Yes, I know they come with protective covers, and if you never mess up you are OK.

The NX came with R-14 tires. They cut the ground up a lot more than the industrial on DK45. I plan to have a pull-off between the DK45 industrial and NX R-14. The only way I could pick up a 7FT x 38IN log was to put 850LB counterweight on the 3-point. Even then, the R-14 still spun out partly because the four-wheel drive will not engage.

 

[tacticalturnip]

14 hours on it when you bought it? I hope you didn't buy someone elses headache.

 

[cbg8670]

Lemon law??

 

[landdog49]

I don't think the lemon law applies to equipment. It took them 3 weeks to getting the 3rd function valve to work.

 

[MaxLee]

with 14 hrs, it be going back to the dealer

 

[K5lwq]

I know it is frustrating but it sounds like they are trying to correct the issues. Some of the things listed are just a part of getting use to a new machine.

I personally do not want my back end so light that it requires 4WD to move the tractor. More weight behind the rear wheels is needed.

At any rate I hope they get you fixed up in a timely manor and you start liking your new tractor.

 

[landdog49]

14 hours on it when you bought it? I hope you didn't buy someone elses headache.

How would one determine if it had been sold and then returned?

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

The NX tractors have always had a history of issues with the fancy HST they placed in them, which is why many go for the hard to find NS instead.

 

[landdog49]

So I am finding out.

 

[landdog49]

I know it is frustrating but it sounds like they are trying to correct the issues. Some of the things listed are just a part of getting use to a new machine.

I personally do not want my back end so light that it requires 4WD to move the tractor. More weight behind the rear wheels is needed.

At any rate I hope they get you fixed up in a timely manor and you start liking your new tractor.

I just called the dealer (he never calls me back), and he said that Kioti had a factory recall for a faulty ground cable from the cab to the frame. He will pick it up this coming Sunday.

I told him that the bucket guide rod was missing. He said that was an option. In fact, everything bolted to the tractor is an option. Then he said he thought he had one around there somewhere and would put it on.

 

[tacticalturnip]

I just looked it up, Texas' lemon law explicitly does not cover tractors, and that's some ****.

I hope they work to make this right, here is hoping.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

I just called the dealer (he never calls me back), and he said that Kioti had a factory recall for a faulty ground cable from the cab to the frame. He will pick it up this coming Sunday.

I told him that the bucket guide rod was missing. He said that was an option. In fact, everything bolted to the tractor is an option. Then he said he thought he had one around there somewhere and would put it on.

I looked at Kioti… I thought there were VERY few options on the NX… it’s the top tier compact that they sell. No way in hell the bucket level indicator is an option. It’s standard on every tractor I’ve looked at the past two years

Ultimately, after looking at cost, standard equipment and capability, we ordered a TYM4820.

 

[tacticalturnip]

Yeah, that didn't seem right to me either, but I'm not knowledgeable enough about the NX to mention it.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Yeah, that didn't seem right to me either, but I'm not knowledgeable enough about the NX to mention it.

Yeah, it’s the flagship compact. It’s barely a compact. Kioti charges a premium for their units. Maybe they earned it… but I didn’t see an increase in quality over the other S Korean tractors to justify the price. I hope OP gets a suitable resolution in a timely manner.

 

[landdog49]

Thank you. All the other tractors I looked at have the bucket rod guide.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Thank you. All the other tractors I looked at have the bucket rod guide.

He could at least be honest and say they didn’t perform a good setup on the tractor. When my weathervanes blew off/over in a severe storm, the crew who built the barn, who came to repair them, could have said it was just due to the hellish winds. They didn’t, they said they honestly forgot to tighten the bolts. At that moment I knew I’d be a customer for life.

 

[landdog49]

He could at least be honest and say they didn’t perform a hood setup on the tractor. When my weathervanes blew off/over in a severe storm, the crew who built the barn, who came to repair them, could have said it was just due to the hellish winds. They didn’t, they said they honestly forgot to tighten the bolts. At that moment I knew I’d be a customer for life.

This is a new dealer. Hopefully, his service will improve.

 

[Threepoint]

The NX tractors have always had a history of issues with the fancy HST they placed in them, which is why many go for the hard to find NS instead.

Hmm. That fancy HST in my 2014 NX 4510HST/cab has been trouble-free for nine years. Guess I just got lucky!

OP, the transmission issue you describe -- hesitation-followed by sudden jumping -- is flat out dangerous. Glad the dealer is picking the tractor up for service. I would tell them, firmly but nicely, that the tractor is simply too dangerous to use in its present condition, and that it should never even have been sold to you without the recall fix first being performed. Same with the four-wheel drive cable grounding fix, which is likewise a safety issue when performing certain operations.

It sounds like both issues were known to the dealer at time of sale, or certainly should have been known. I don't know the terms of the actual deal you made, but if these two material issues were not disclosed, despite factory recalls pending, I'd say you have a right to rescind the sale right now if you aren't satisfied that both can be fixed promptly.

BTW, if your tractor was delivered with 14 hours on it (you don't actually say whether it was), that is rather high. Even for one that's been driven around the dealer's lot for awhile. I would simply ask the dealer directly if you were the first person the tractor was sold to.

As for the other problems you mention, they are all quite minor in my book. Here are my thoughts.

FEL bucket guide rod missing: This is a dealer issue, and hopefully just due to the dealer being new. The bucket level indicator absolutely is a standard feature on the KL 6010 loader: https://www.kioti.com/products/attachments/front-end-loaders/kl6010/
The indicator can't work at all without the guide rod, so there's no way it could be "optional."

No left-side armrest on the seat: Is this even available as an option? It's not listed on Kioti's website. My NX didn't come with one, and frankly I think one would just get in the way for me, and I'm not all that big a guy.

No rear windshield wiper: This is an optional item on all the Kioti cab models, as clearly shown on the Kioti website. It's easily added if you want it. I think my dealer charged me about $140 installed back then. No, I wouldn't expect this to be included as standard, even on Kioti's flagship models, which the NX series are.

No radio faceplate: Unless something's changed in the new NX series, or I'm misunderstanding what you mean, I certainly agree with you here. Isn't this just a blank plate of gray plastic? What is covering the radio-cutout opening now in the headliner console on your NX? Maybe this is another issue attributable to the dealer being new?

Hydraulic couplings are poppet Pioneer style: Yes, all of the hydraulic couplers on all of the Kioti models are poppet Pioneer style. They will work with poppet and non-poppet ag couplers. You prefer flat-faced couplers for your implements and attachments, and that's fine. But many folks don't want those, and I don't know of any brand of CUT or Utility tractor that comes standard with them, at least in North America.

You have difficulty seeing the quick-attach plate when hooking up to attachments without sitting on the front edge of the seat: Yep, sounds right. Wish that weren't the case, but I think that's pretty much so on most CUT and Utility tractors, regardless of brand, as contrasted to industrial skid-steer machines. It's great that you don't have the issue on your older DK!

The R-14 tires tear up the ground more than your R-4's on your DK: That's interesting feedback to hear. R-14s weren't available as an option when I bought my NX and my 2018 CK 3510HST. Did you elect R-14s, rather than R-4s? I haven't checked recently, but tractor dealers around here normally order with R-4s unless the buyer requests otherwise. I have R-3s on all my tractors, as they're better suited to my needs (mostly road maintenance, dirt moving, grapple work, and (until this year anyway!) snow removal).

Sure hope your dealer is able to get you squared away quickly. I know you're disappointed right now, but the NX 6010HST/cab is a very good tractor. I think you'll really like it once things are sorted out.

 

[Boss 302]

Don't give up on it too soon if it's anything like my "non HST" RX6010 you will love it.

 

[toxicjeeper]

I heard the nx hst were controlled electronically vs mechanical. This was the main reason I didn't search one out but I got lucky and found an NS 5310 and bought it. The loader does have a guide rod on it but I don't use it as I swapped a large material bucket on the loader as soon as I got the tractor so it is off by alot