Fighting 'Solar Farm' Installation

[Muhammad]

In my opinion everybody should lay off the insults. Our server farm can't handle the stress.

 

[turbo36]

In my opinion everybody should lay off the insults. Our server farm can't handle the stress.

Yeah, but is it a real “farm “? Ha Ha

 

[Muhammad]

Yeah, but is it a real “farm “? Ha Ha

It identifies as a farm.

Sorry, couldn't resist. Don't ban me.

 

[/pine]

And the technicians that run the place are "farmers"...!

 

[lman]

They add money to our town coffers but use no town services of any kind .

If the solar farm hadn’t gone in , it would have been 500 single family homes with 2.3 children each .

So I guess it wasn't farmland. No ag acres going out of production.

 

[lman]

Not sure exactly what it is you (and others) don't understand about someone having an OPINION...
Obviously those that would argue with a blow up doll have no clue to the definition of the word...

I've LMAO at all the arguments...I know it's not funny laughing at people falling down stairs...but in this case it's hilarious...!

Now go look up the word "opinion"

You can stick with your opinions, we'll stick with the facts.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

And the technicians that run the place are "farmers"...!

Miners, as in "Data Mining"

 

[Hay Dude]

Rare we agree, but I’m 1000% with you on that one!

Now don’t be gettin all warm & fuzzy on me.

 

[Hay Dude]

You can stick with your opinions, we'll stick with the facts.

Obviously you don’t recognize a renaissance man when you see one. LOL

 

[Dftodd]

Miners, as in "Data Mining"

Wife and I just purchased 6 acres of mature oak trees. We're in the process of clearing off a portion for a build site.

That's a lot of flipping trees

Wife and I were taking a break and were talk8ng about different options around the property when she pulled her phone out, Google something and placed a call.

I asked who she was calling. That's when she said she was calling a logging company to see about getting the property cleared.

I immediately started laughing and told her she isn't calling who she thinks she's calling

About that time a women answers the phone and my wife speaks briefly and then hangs up.

Gets a "Well sh#t!!!! That wasn't what I thought it was!!!"

I responded "You got a key logging company didn't you????"

She says "Yup.... how did you know???"

"I called the dame company yesterday"

Who would have thought getting hold of an actual timber logging company would be so bloody hard

 

[TIMMYDUCK]

So I guess it wasn't farmland. No ag acres going out of production.

It was shade grown broad leaf tobacco fields for a century or so .

Martin Luther King worked the fields I am showing you as a young man in the summers of 1944 and 1947.

Martin Luther King, Jr. was born in Atlanta, Georgia January 15, 1929. He took a test at the end of his junior year in high school to gain early admission to Morehouse College in Atlanta, Georgia. It was this summer, 1944, at the age of 15 he came north with a group of Morehouse students to work for the Cullman Brothers in their Simsbury area shade tobacco fields. (He returned to Simsbury to work for Cullman Bros. again in 1947 between his junior and senior years at Morehouse.)

Simsbury in 1944 was a rural community dependent on agriculture (dairy, corn and shade tobacco). The other industry in town was Ensign-Bickford that had been making safety fuse since 1836. Trains carried residents to Hartford and a horse and buggy was not uncommon among farm families. World War II service had taken much of the young male workforce.

The importation of labor from the South for seasonal agricultural work had a long history in Connecticut. The partnership between Morehouse College and the Cullman Bros. had benefits for each. Cullman was assured of a workforce that was motivated – their salaries went towards tuition at Morehouse and their board – and the chance to travel to a non-segregated area of the United States was attractive to college students – their train fare was paid if they stayed until the harvest was complete. Morehouse students had an opportunity to travel and interact with a community that allowed more personal freedom than most had ever encountered before.

The students lived in the Morehouse boarding house or camp on Firetown Road near Barndoor Hills. The actual structure has burned down and a housing development is now on the site. Here 100 or more black students spent the summer with teachers from their school. They rose at 6AM and worked in the fields Monday to Friday from 7AM to 5 PM or later with few breaks then return home for dinner that was served in a communal dining room. Dr. King and several other students recounted that extra food could be obtained by helping in the kitchen. The work was hot and exhausting as they worked under the gauze tents which held in the humidity and kept out any cooling breezes. After dinner there was time for baseball or basketball but most fell into their beds to get as much sleep as possible before starting over the next day. Lights were out at 10 PM.

Within this group in 1944 was a young man who was expected by his family to continue the family tradition of Baptist ministry. That summer in Simsbury he reverted to the name Michael King. (This was his birth name and he shared it with his father who changed both of their names to “Martin” several years before he came to Simsbury.) He had worked hard to convince his parents that he was old enough to go on such a journey. His friend Emmett Proctor (“Weasel”) also came north with him. His mother was still not convinced when she put him on the train for Hartford.

The journey was an eye opener for Dr. King. From Atlanta to Washington, D.C. the railroad cars were segregated and blacks were seated in the dining cars behind a curtain. From Washington north he could sit wherever he wished. In his autobiography he writes: “After that summer in Connecticut, it was a bitter feeling going back to segregation. It was hard to understand why I could ride wherever I pleased on the train from New York to Washington and then had to change to a Jim Crow [racially restricted] car at the nation’s capital in order to continue the trip to Atlanta.”

Despite the hot, dusty and exhausting work, summer in Simsbury was often described by the students as “the promised land.” On Friday evenings they might venture into town (although most students agree it was never past the Methodist Church and commercial block where Vincent’s sporting goods is today.) They could attend the movies at the Eno Memorial Hall or stop at Doyle’s Drug Store for their first opportunity to have a milk shake. (In the south they would not have been served at the white owned businesses.) Saturdays were usually spent in Hartford where they could shop, attend live musical shows and eat in any restaurant they chose. “Yesterday we didn’s work so we went to Hardford we really had a nice time there. I never thought that a person of my race could eat anywhere but we …ate in one of the finest resturant in Hardford. And we went to the largest shows there. It is really a large city,” Dr. King wrote to his mother on June 18 1944.

Sundays were first and foremost a religious day. Most of the students attended black churches in Hartford if they could. They found the Simsbury church services too plain and quiet. Those who did attend Simsbury churches are remembered as being very nice young men and always dressed in jackets and ties. Most frequently religious services were conducted in their dormitory because they were working a portion of Sunday. “We have service every Sunday about 8:00 and I am the religious leader we have a Boys choir here and we are going to sing on the air soon,” he wrote to his father on June 11 1944. Dr. King’s father wanted him to attend Hartford churches where he might be exposed to other black preachers. According to the Rev. King T. Hayes, pastor of the Shiloh Baptist Church in Hartford who was in the Morehouse program in 1946 and 1947 it was not uncommon for the young men to walk both ways to Hartford saving money on train fare. “We went to church in Simsbury and we were the only negro’s there Negroes and whites go to the same church,” King wrote his mother on June 11, 1944.

Dr. King left Simsbury on September 12, 1944 after the Hurricane of Sept. 8th to return to Atlanta. It had been a summer of freedom from his family as well as the racial constraints of the segregated south. While his presence as a fifteen year old tobacco worker went largely unnoticed by the residents of Simsbury and even most of those students who lived with him, the impact of a non-segregated Simsbury and Hartford made a lasting impression on the young man. The return was difficult for him and has been described by him as pivotal in laying the groundwork for his later civil rights work. “The first time I was seated behind a curtain in a dining car, I felt as if the curtain had been dropped on my selfhood. I could never adjust to the separate waiting rooms, separate eating places, separate rest rooms, partly because the separate was always unequal, and partly because the very idea of separation did something to my sense of dignity and self respect,” Dr. King writes in his autobiography.

The following two summers found Dr. King working as a Pullman porter and in a factory against his father’s wishes. In 1947 he returns with the Morehouse program and again works tobacco. A more mature student he is struggling with his call to the ministry. His friend, Emmett Proctor tells the story of Dr. King calling home from Simsbury to tell his mother that they have had a minor run-in with the police over a prank and cushioning the news by first announcing that he has decided to follow in the footsteps of his father, grandfather and great-grandfather. After his graduation in 1948 from Morehouse College, Dr. King attended Crozier Theological Seminary in Chester, Pennsylvania. He received a doctorate from Boston University in 1955. While it is documented that he returned to Hartford during his time as a civil rights leader, it is not known if he ever visited Simsbury again

 

[turbo36]

Miners, as in "Data Mining"

So is it farming potatoes or mining potatoes?

 

[MapleLeafFarmer]

So is it farming potatoes or mining potatoes?

neither.... we Grow potatoes on our Farm . We are Farmers .

 

[Grumpycat]

Since you're in Kentucky like me, I'll just say this... I know someone who is a top dog in our state Energy and Environment Cabinet and he is not a fan of solar farms.

- They use up valuable land that could be used for agriculture or other purposes
- They don't generate nearly enough electricity to justify the cost
- They are an environmental nightmare when the panels reach end of life
- They don't work when covered with snow or ice
- They harbor other problems and require constant maintenance of grounds or hardware
- They require the energy produced to be stored in batteries which are also an environmental nightmare

You could likely contact KY EEC and plead your case. Not sure they could stop a solar farm on private lands but they may "discourage" it enough to cause the owners to change their minds.

If only the people building PV solar farms knew that!

But wait, they are building PV solar farms anyway. And after building one they build another, and another. Perhaps the people actually building and running the things know more than you do?

Facebook has built a server farm on 1000 acres in Huntsville AL. Has contracted with TVA for a power exchange, building many large PV farms in nearby TN. Somebody has experience with megawatt PV systems and thinks it works.

 

[TN8Man]

If only the people building PV solar farms knew that!

But wait, they are building PV solar farms anyway. And after building one they build another, and another. Perhaps the people actually building and running the things know more than you do?

Facebook has built a server farm on 1000 acres in Huntsville AL. Has contracted with TVA for a power exchange, building many large PV farms in nearby TN. Somebody has experience with megawatt PV systems and thinks it works.

The West Tennessee Solar Farm in Haywood County on Interstate 40 is one of the largest solar panel farms in Tennessee, capable of producing more than 5 million watts of electricity annually.

Here is the website: West Tennessee Solar Farm

From the website: The West Tennessee Solar Farm generates enough energy to power 500 homes each year.
Also: The 5-megawatt West Tennessee Solar Farm is one of the largest solar-generating facilities in the Southeast.

So the largest solar farm in Tennessee can only power 500 homes a year? This is a waist of valuable land for a renewable energy system being sold to naïve people to take their money ... a big scam!

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

Millington Tennessee solar farm:
The solar facility will cover about 1,200-1,400 acres and generate 150 megawatts, equivalent to 399,600 solar panels. Facebook will use 110 megawatts of the plant's power.
“This is about really moving to green energy,” said Jim Balocki, Deputy Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Navy.
The Millington solar farm is quite a sight to see. Hundreds of acres of solar panels that took $100-million and three years to build.
??? I'm trying to figure this out. That's $250 per solar panel assuming the land was free.
"On average, solar panels cost $17,430 to $23,870 for a typical 6-kilowatt (kW) system after federal tax credits."
In 2021, total U.S. conventional hydroelectricity generation was about 260 billion kilowatthours (kWh), equal to about 6.5% of total U.S. utility-scale electricity generation.
Something doesn't add up!

 

[lman]

I know a guy that's working at the solar farm under construction here that is supposed to power 275,000 homes and generate approximately 1.6GWdc. I told him that I'm looking forward to lower electric rates from all that free energy and he laughed.

 

[turbo36]

[/QUOTE]

Here is the website: West Tennessee Solar Farm

From the website: The West Tennessee Solar Farm generates enough energy to power 500 homes each year.
Also: The 5-megawatt West Tennessee Solar Farm is one of the largest solar-generating facilities in the Southeast.

So the largest solar farm in Tennessee can only power 500 homes a year? This is a waist of valuable land for a renewable energy system being sold to naïve people to take their money ... a big scam!

So you do realize that this is also a rest area for the freeway? If you look at the site from Google Earth, you see that was not " prime in-production farm land", it was a combination of field and woods. It appears the solar panels only take up about 20% of the 25 acres so approximately 5 acres or so of just solar panels, the rest of the site is a rest stop and educational facility. Perhaps you are the naïve one for believing the propaganda that is pushed out against solar energy. Perhaps you should do a little more research before posting such an ignorant set of "facts ".

 

[MossRoad]

It's also 11 years old already.

 

[/pine]

I know a guy that's working at the solar farm under construction here that is supposed to power 275,000 homes and generate approximately 1.6GWdc. I told him that I'm looking forward to lower electric rates from all that free energy and he laughed.

AKA "farmhand"