Will UAW Strike?

[hiddentacocatneddih]

We need a buyer's strike to drive prices down

 

[5030]

I'd say the strike will end when Fain comes to the realization that the automakers have put forth their best offers and won't give any more, or the strike fund runs out or the rank and file looses faith in Fain and boots him or the automakers come up with another creative plan... Kind of reminds me of the old saying.... You cannot get blood from a turnip....

 

[Joel/ak]

Fain knew the big 3 wouldn't be able to meet his demands.

 

[Joel/ak]

Right and I agree, but you didn’t buy it new, right?
This is where I am at. I can write a check for most used equipment, but new? I’m priced out of the market.

Nope. Used a couple months ago. New drivetrain, clean ND truck for 15k.

I refuse to buy new

 

[Hay Dude]

Nope. Used a couple months ago. New drivetrain, clean ND truck for 15k.

I refuse to buy new

It has become almost impossible.
Inflation has far outstripped income.

Also, anything new mechanical with an engine seems to be impossibly complicated.

 

[Milo]

A friend who was a union worker at Milan Pharmaceutical in Morgantown, WV said the union and management negotiator came to an impasse after trying to settle during their last strike a couple years ago. My friend, who was planning to retire pretty soon anyway, had been voting to end the strike but the majority wanted to hold out for more. He said when eventually the negotiator told us "the company told me to give you what you asked for" the union was ecstatic, but he felt certain that meant they were done with the union and the plant, and just wanted to get us back to work while they made arrangements to close the plant.
His feeling was correct, some months after returning to work Mylan announced they were closing the Morgantown facility and moving production to their other plants in India, Netherlands, etc. The Morgantown facility, already the highest cost producer in the global company, became even more expensive after the latest contract so it simply made sense to give it up and not have to worry about labor strikes any longer. All those top paying jobs gone, 850 union and almost that many company workers. the plant sits empty (I've heard it was donated to WVU).

Is it time for auto makers to just quit fighting the union? Will Ford, GM, and Stellantis decide they're better off long run to get the workers back temporarily while arranging to move production to southern States and off shore, and finally just be done with the union?

 

[Lineman North Florida]

We need a buyer's strike to drive prices down

I'm in.

 

[Yander]

Me 2. Glad I don't need a new vehicle, especially a truck. I feel for those who make a living with expensive equipment and or have a lot of input costs. Can't be easy right now.

 

[Hay Dude]

A friend who was a union worker at Milan Pharmaceutical in Morgantown, WV said the union and management negotiator came to an impasse after trying to settle during their last strike a couple years ago. My friend, who was planning to retire pretty soon anyway, had been voting to end the strike but the majority wanted to hold out for more. He said when eventually the negotiator told us "the company told me to give you what you asked for" the union was ecstatic, but he felt certain that meant they were done with the union and the plant, and just wanted to get us back to work while they made arrangements to close the plant.
His feeling was correct, some months after returning to work Mylan announced they were closing the Morgantown facility and moving production to their other plants in India, Netherlands, etc. The Morgantown facility, already the highest cost producer in the global company, became even more expensive after the latest contract so it simply made sense to give it up and not have to worry about labor strikes any longer. All those top paying jobs gone, 850 union and almost that many company workers. the plant sits empty (I've heard it was donated to WVU).

Is it time for auto makers to just quit fighting the union? Will Ford, GM, and Stellantis decide they're better off long run to get the workers back temporarily while arranging to move production to southern States and off shore, and finally just be done with the union?

A lot of that has already happened. Ford & Stellantis produce a lot of trucks in Mexico.
*I see a day when little, if anything is made here anymore.
Unions wages and gov’t regulations, along with corp taxes make the USA non-competitive in mass level production.

* AI and mass advanced robotics might change that.

 

[ultrarunner]

Only one new vehicle for me and it was while I was overseas…

Mom one new car ever.

Family is happy with simple reliable transportation.

Wish well for everyone but like my Union Shop Boss once said… at $21 per hour I have work for everyone and at $24 it will take a year to wind down operations… shop no longer there in fact the Union Hall was also sold off… just not much Union manufacturing remaining here.