New $10,000 Toyota pickup

[WinterDeere]

Funny story: When the SRT's first got adaptive cruise (ca.2016?) in the 6.4L models, my dealer took one of the Chargers out to learn and test the system. They followed another car down the PA Turnpike, and the system worked beautifully, slowing and speeding to maintain constant distance. They followed this car up the exit ramp to the traffic light at the top of the ramp, and their car automatically stopped behind the vehicle they were following, when they reached the red light at the intersection.

They were just commenting to one another how cool this was, when the light turned green and the car in front of them turned off onto the local road. Then their car released all 500 horsepower straight ahead, acceleration as hard as traction control would permit, straight toward the guard rail on the far side of the local road with which the exit made a "T".

They managed to avoid totaling the thing, and lesson learned, don't get too complacent with technology at the wheel.

 

[ruffdog]

Maybe farmers should be able to buy trucks like this (doodad exemption) so they can have simple and cheap transportation. I would get one and haul a bale of straw in the back!

 

[LittleBill21]

Gm calls it hill start or assist or something like that. When working properly it is handy at a boat launch or towing heavy but so does putting your other foot on the brake. Anyways I will stick to what i like and don't like and always be a on the Minority band wagon of simpler lower cost autos.

dude just get a light bar, bolt it to the hood, and wire a basic switch, and turn off the headlights once and for all. no auto reset anything!

 

[LittleBill21]

Funny story: When the SRT's first got adaptive cruise (ca.2016?) in the 6.4L models, my dealer took one of the Chargers out to learn and test the system. They followed another car down the PA Turnpike, and the system worked beautifully, slowing and speeding to maintain constant distance. They followed this car up the exit ramp to the traffic light at the top of the ramp, and their car automatically stopped behind the vehicle they were following, when they reached the red light at the intersection.

They were just commenting to one another how cool this was, when the light turned green and the car in front of them turned off onto the local road. Then their car released all 500 horsepower straight ahead, acceleration as hard as traction control would permit, straight toward the guard rail on the far side of the local road with which the exit made a "T".

They managed to avoid totaling the thing, and lesson learned, don't get too complacent with technology at the wheel.

adaptive cruise control has ramp up settings, I have never seen it floor my car ever, but yes if you switch lanes, it will step down on the gas, if you have the ramp set aggressively. considering the size of the engine, it prolly was a pucker, especially if the ramp was turned all the way up

 

[jjeff]

dude just get a light bar, bolt it to the hood, and wire a basic switch, and turn off the headlights once and for all. no auto reset anything!

Auto headlights aren't my problem in fact with illuminated gauges and daytime running lights should auto headlights should be standard equipment.

 

[WinterDeere]

adaptive cruise control has ramp up settings, I have never seen it floor my car ever, but yes if you switch lanes, it will step down on the gas, if you have the ramp set aggressively. considering the size of the engine, it prolly was a pucker, especially if the ramp was turned all the way up

This may have been a 2015 or earlier model, as I remember being told the story while ordering a vehicle in January 2016. So while they may mostly have a ramp-up feature now, I'm not sure if that was always the case. I'll check a few of our cars tonight, see if I can spot when that showed up.

 

[LittleBill21]

This may have been a 2015 or earlier model, as I remember being told the story while ordering a vehicle in January 2016. So while they may mostly have a ramp-up feature now, I'm not sure if that was always the case. I'll check a few of our cars tonight, see if I can spot when that showed up.

really going to depend on the car, I was in a maxxed out lexus prolly 10+ years ago and it had adaptive cruise, it was also like a 120k suv at the time.

 

[ning]

My 32 year old Ford f-250 has all the bells and whistles I would ever need or want

The only thing I want on my truck is a back-up camera, but I literally put like 30 miles a month on it so it's not worth the bother.
The rattle of the diesel is my "beep beep beep" backup warning for pedestrians...

I hate the modern climate controls; this truck has the dials that I can be in a completely dark truck and just by feel I can tell what setting it's on and adjust it how I want without taking my eyes off the road. I abhor the idea of this being on a touch screen, it's bad enough in a modern car that you have to actually set a particular temperature (when I get in a cold car - bake me for a while. once I've warmed up, I want it cooler. Seems like I adjust the temp in my wife's car with its auto control more often than in the truck but I'm more comfortable in the truck)

 

[WinterDeere]

really going to depend on the car, I was in a maxxed out lexus prolly 10+ years ago and it had adaptive cruise, it was also like a 120k suv at the time.

Also depends on the driver, as this was at least 7.5 years ago, and it was a brand-new feature to them at the time. They may have been unaware, even if there were a ramp control setting.

 

[WinterDeere]

The only thing I want on my truck is a back-up camera...

That back-up camera is a godsend for anyone who routinely changes trailers. Other than bad weather, my pickup is used primarily for towing my three trailers, and I still get giddy every time I back up to a ball hitch and don't have to do that old routine of jumping in and out of the truck 6 times to line it up. Some trailers are just too heavy to move to the ball, if you're off more than 1/2".

I wish I had a camera on the back of the ballast box on my tractor, as I often mount a hitch there, and it's just barely out of view from my seat. Usually takes me 2-3 times on/off the tractor to line that one up under a trailer, as the little bit of sway in the trailing arms and hydraulic top link can help fine-tune position if you get it close enough.

 

[etpm]

I would love one of these if I could get 4WD. It would be perfect for my 10 or 12 acres. Apparently it can be had with 4WD as an option. It would be worth it to me to drive from Seattle to Tijuana for that kind of pricing. And a Toyota. I love Toyota vehicles.
Eric

 

[Joel/ak]

I'll admit, a back up camera is nice

 

[ning]

I'll admit, a back up camera is nice

I mean, I did also replace the head unit with a bluetooth stereo but I don't think that really counts....

I should probably get a front camera as well if I ever get a rear; I'm really really good at getting super close to the next car in front in a parking lot but someday that's going to be an insurance hit...

 

[dfkrug]

yes thats the old school system, have to be on a incline, my van has it, the new brake hold feature. lets you completely remove your foot from the brake indefinitely, and has tie in's to adaptive cruise and drive assist, but its a button you have to push, and the dash will show a light when it engages

There are at least 2 kinds of brake-hold systems out there. One kind, hill-start assist keeps our manual trans car from rolling backwards when starting to move forward up a hill. In the old days, you moved your right foot quickly or used the hand brake. Apparently that exists for auto trannies, too. Our Mazda brake-hold MT hill-start assist only holds the brake on when in gear and only for a few seconds.

Another kind, which we have on our Hyundai Ioniq HEV, holds the vehicle from creeping forward when stopped in Drive. It may stop it from creeping backward on a slope, too. We have a dual-clutch AT in that car, so there is no torque converter creep. The system is set up to simulate torque-converter creep. There is a button called "auto-hold" that turns off creep, but you have to enable it every time you start the car.

 

[goeduck]

If 4x4 it'd be a nice farm truck, traditional UTV alternative.

 

[WinterDeere]

Hyundai Ioniq HEV... have a dual-clutch AT...

Wow. Had no idea Hyundai had a dual-clutch tranny. The dual clutch transmission alone in some older sports cars probably cost damn near as much as an entire Hyundai, in adjusted 2023 dollars!

 

[ning]

A friend's recent (automatic) Subaru Outback has a hill-hold system which basically automatically sets the parking brake; it has one of those push-button parking brakes so I guess it goes together easily.

Our Toyota Highlander (also automatic) has a hill-hold system which I'm guessing uses the ABS system as the parking brake is a push-pedal ratchet deal and definitely isn't affected by the hill-hold. If you have your brake depressed, stopped on an uphill, when you take your foot off the brake pedal you have a few seconds before it relaxes and the car will start creeping backward just like any other car (very easy to get to the gas by then).

I'm guessing either would work fine on a manual, that'd be nice to have, though I always enjoyed the driver-engagement aspect of using the handbrake to do it, especially in SF

 

[dfkrug]

Had no idea Hyundai had a dual-clutch tranny.

We had to get an automatic car, due to the wife's health issues. Tho I am a big fan of Toyotas, I do not like the CVTs in their cars. The 6-speed DCT in the Hyundai seems to accelerate much quicker, and the strong hybrid (240V) makes for very smooth take-off and start-stop function. And Prius-beating 60 MPG.

I don't like the Lane-Keep-Assist and the electronic dual-zone climate control. I did not get the emergency braking or auto hi beams, thankfully.

 

[5030]

I use my cruise control frequently because the

I use the cruise in the Focus RS Turbo because if I didn't, I'd loose my license. It's a rocket ship on the loud pedal....and running on cruise nets my best fuel mileage as well. Same applies to my wife's Suburban not that it gets good mileage because it don't but it does get it's best mileage on cruise. She averages 21 on cruise and 18 on the pedal which she does like because nothing beats a V8, especially a GM V8 with the sequential valve delete kit installed.

Something about the sound of a big V8 that even sounds better than my turbo in the Focus.....

 

[WinterDeere]

I use the cruise in the Focus RS Turbo because if I didn't, I'd loose my license.

I also use cruise control almost exclusively to avoid speeding tickets. There's one "targeted enforcement" road I must drive everyday, where the speed limit is ludicrously low, and I set the cruise control every time I drive that road. Has saved me from probably many dozens of speeding tickets.

<-- likes fast cars