Any pricing yet on the new E tractors?

[RammerJammer]

Electric may be the future. I like the idea of electric cars due to their performance. But, I also like the idea of nitro-methane dragsters for the same reason. I own/drive neither.

For some idea as to the real cost of EVs (possibly, electric tractors as well), meaning the cost to EVERYONE, not just the EV owner/operator, see:

This article:

‘True Cost’ of EV Fueling Equivalent to $17.33 per Gallon of Gas: Report

President Biden’s goal of 100 percent EVs by 2040 ‘will never become a reality’ as EVs will remain more expensive than gas vehicles, report reads.

www.theepochtimes.com

And, the actual study:

https://www.texaspolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/2023-10-TrueCostofEVs-BennettIsaac.pdf

Otherwise, there's this chart:

 

[WM75Guy]

I was at the CNH dealership on Monday. No word on price, availability maybe 1st quarter 2024.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Seems like a guy could order one now… in fact I thought a month ago they said they were taking orders. How do you order something without knowing the cost?

 

[Paystar]

Seems like a guy could order one now… in fact I thought a month ago they said they were taking orders. How do you order something without knowing the cost?

When you have more money than brains. LOL

 

[Paystar]

I recently read an article and Ford is now saying they are going to scale back their electric vehicle production because they are not going to meet goals, and now go back to focusing on hybrids. Now that makes more sense!

Which makes me think, why don't these tractor manufacturers focus on that also. You know, make them like a mining haul truck....use a smaller diesel engine with electric drive motors to multiply your rim pull.
That way we can have a big tractor with a non DPF 26 horsepower motor that has to do nothing but turn a generator to power electric drive motors at each wheel.

 

[oldnslo]

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I am not real familiar with mine haul trucks but I suspect they use full power at reduced speed when climbing out of the mine and far less power when going back into mine unloaded.

Large farm tractors doing field work require close to full power for extended periods of time like 12 plus hours before refuel is required With little break in power demand. Not sure how hybrid would work in this environment.

 

[Paystar]

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I am not real familiar with mine haul trucks but I suspect they use full power at reduced speed when climbing out of the mine and far less power when going back into mine unloaded.

Large farm tractors doing field work require close to full power for extended periods of time like 12 plus hours before refuel is required With little break in power demand. Not sure how hybrid would work in this environment.

Ya, I'm not an engineer, so there must be a reason why no one has done it.

But hey, if the snowflakes can dream that electric everything will work, I can have my diesel electric dreams, LOL

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

Did I read that article correctly when it said the tractor will follow someone who is walking and stop when the person gets too close or signals the tractor to stop?

Yeah...no thanks. I've drilled into my kids for years to never be directly in front or behind a tractor or other piece of equipment that is moving, and only when it's stopped and the operator clearly knows you're there (like hooking up something on the 3pt hitch).

That's an accident waiting to happen.

 

[mikester]

4 hours operating time, you gotta be kidding me. better have a portable gas fired genny on the 3 point to charge it up..

Sounds just right to me. 4 hours run time advertised means it will go 2 hours when brand new, then drop to 1 hour after the first year, then 20 minutes in winter.

The average SCUT owner only puts on 50 hours a year. That's less than an hour per week.

Homeowners should be forced into buying electric SCUTs. Its good for them.

 

[Williy]

Here's a little info on a new toy:that everyone would want???????

Price	Starts at $88,998*
Peak Motor Power	70 hp
Drive Train	4 Wheel Drive
Charge Port	J1772 Type 1 (up to 80 A)
PTO Power	40 hp
3-Point Hitch	CAT I/II

willy

 

[Paystar]

70 horse but 40 at the PTO? That's efficient, LOL

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

70 horse but 40 at the PTO? That's efficient, LOL

Yeah, I noticed that. Yuck.

Don't get me wrong, I like innovation and we as humans have gotten to the technology level that we're at by trying new things and experiencing trial and error. Having said that, some ideas just don't make sense for the application. A fully electric plug-in tractor really does seem like one of those. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try it, but this business of forcing such an idea on the public (and we all know that's coming) is what the bigger problem is.

It's very possible that a hybrid ICE-battery powered tractor might actually be an innovation that makes sense for the application, but there are powers that be that apparently don't even want that as an option.

There really is a larger agenda in play here and that makes me think we'll never see another legit election. 2016 will never be allowed to happen again.

 

[Tinhack]

Probably separate motor for the PTO. And what's the joystick for?

 

[chim]

Any guess how many of those electric tractors will be running on their original factory power train 40 years from now?

 

[Tinhack]

Any guess how many of those electric tractors will be running on their original factory power train 40 years from now?

You have to include the battery as factory power so I'd say ZERO will still be around in 40 years.

 

[chim]

You have to include the battery as factory power so I'd say ZERO will still be around in 40 years.

My point

 

[arto98607]

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4 hours operating time, you gotta be kidding me. better have a portable gas fired genny on the 3 point to charge it up..

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Better yet - have a PTO powered generator.........

 

[Paystar]

Any guess how many of those electric tractors will be running on their original factory power train 40 years from now?

My guess is there will be zero of ANYTHING built today still operating in 40 years. LOL
And at that point my Allis Chalmers will be 104 years old and still going. LOL

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Any guess how many of those electric tractors will be running on their original factory power train 40 years from now?

The battery will be obsolete in 20

 

[Williy]

It would be something if the battery would even last 10 years
I don't know how long it takes to charge but say you get farmers
in the same area with 20 tractors what will happen to the electric
company will the power lines still be up???
EV's are really a JOKE! They cost more than a gas car and the
electric IHMO is not that much cheaper driving than a gas and
the emissions are not less because of what is used to produce
the power the ev. Compare the cost of the ev + hookup etc and
then a gas car in the long run I can't see how an ev is better and
with an ev you are restricts to where you can go!

willy