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[ultrarunner]

Police, fire, sewer, water, trash removal, animal control, sidewalks, streetlights, traffic control
A pretty big list compared to my hood.

Don’t forget Midnight Basketball and building sports facilities for teams long gone or about to leave like the Warriors, Raiders and soon Athletics.

 

[ultrarunner]

Coming soon to A neighborhood near you. Might be surprised to learn where the busses are headed to from the “sanctuary cities”.

Does seem disingenuous to declare and legally defend sanctuary city status and then pitch a fit when those seeking sanctuary arrive.

 

[edgarrian]

Look up how much farmers have received in subsidies. Its a lot. I looked up each farmer that had signed ump for wind turbines. Our county had 7 farmers that all had received more than a million. Several about 500k. One farmer who spoke at the commissioners meeting claimed he needed the wind farms b/c farming is a hard business. He was one that had over 1 million from the tax payer and he also walked to his cadillac claiming he needed more money. Sadly every industry is propped up by the tax payer. Yet we everyone things this is capitalist world. It is not

 

[ultrarunner]

And the there are small family farms with no subsidies with annual gross incomes from 40k to 400k with the emphasis on gross income.

Not even AG exemptions for some as the 40 to 80 acres farmed now zoned for housing...

Could be said the powers that be are doing the opposite of propping up as they would prefer new housing replace crop land.

I don't doubt big business which includes agribusiness isn't in the mix but disagree that all farmers are being propped up or on the dole.

 

[jyoutz]

Look up how much farmers have received in subsidies. Its a lot. I looked up each farmer that had signed ump for wind turbines. Our county had 7 farmers that all had received more than a million. Several about 500k. One farmer who spoke at the commissioners meeting claimed he needed the wind farms b/c farming is a hard business. He was one that had over 1 million from the tax payer and he also walked to his cadillac claiming he needed more money. Sadly every industry is propped up by the tax payer. Yet we everyone things this is capitalist world. It is not

Any forest landowner who has ten plus acres can get tens of thousands of USDA dollars to thin their forest either by contract chainsaw or mastication treatment. A forester has to write a management plan and the purpose just has to be to improve timber production, wildlife habitat, or reduce hazardous fuels. Of course most landowners aren’t living below the poverty line.

 

[ultrarunner]

I have 9.89 of forest land with huge cedar and towering fir and much is critical habitat so logging is off limits.

I realize volumes of programs exist but actually benefitting is another thing.

Had a huge energy program to upgrade home HVAC and only certain models qualified... waited and paid the more expensive price, permitted and all submitted well within time and the PGE bankruptcy cancelled it all out.

We had a first time home buyer program that is quite intense... can't tell you how many I know that walked away in frustration because funding was exhausted in days for programs that were slated for a calendar year

A little off topic but managed a lot of low income Section 8 rentals at one time and families were placed in units with HUD mandated $50 to $150 security deposits with HUD providing up to 2 months rent amount over the tenant paid amount.

In the middle of the program HUD says no longer going to do that leaving providers with tenants in valuable property with essentially no deposit.

To say the massive credits and subsidies exist is true... what isn't true is that everyone eligible will benefit even following to the letter...

The rental housing providers challenge and lobby against onerous mandates with little to show...

The low income grants and programs never go to a owner builder building a few units... they instead go to the big boys...

 

[jyoutz]

I have 9.89 of forest land with huge cedar and towering fir and much is critical habitat so logging is off limits.

I realize volumes of programs exist but actually benefitting is another thing.

Had a huge energy program to upgrade home HVAC and only certain models qualified... waited and paid the more expensive price, permitted and all submitted well within time and the PGE bankruptcy cancelled it all out.

We had a first time home buyer program that is quite intense... can't tell you how many I know that walked away in frustration because funding was exhausted in days for programs that were skated for a calendar year

A little off topic but managed a lot of low income Section 8 rentals at one time and families were placed in units with HUD mandated $50 to $150 security deposits with HUD providing up to 2 months rent amount over the tenant paid amount.

In the middle of the program HUD saif no longer going to do that leaving providers with tenants in valuable property with essentially no deposit.

To say the massive credits and subsidies exist is true... what isn't true is that everyone eligible will benefit even following to the letter...

I think that you have been given bad information regarding thinning your forestland. Yes, threatened and endangered species habitat has some legal restrictions on management and logging of large trees, but I’ve never seen a T&E species recovery plan that doesn’t have provisions for hazardous fuels thinning. I know you can do that in California spotted owl habitat because we do this on National Forest lands in CA, under consultation with US Fish and Wildlife Service. I recommend talking to someone with your state forestry department or a consulting forester.

 

[two_bit_score]

Any forest landowner who has ten plus acres can get tens of thousands of USDA dollars to thin their forest either by contract chainsaw or mastication treatment. A forester has to write a management plan and the purpose just has to be to improve timber production, wildlife habitat, or reduce hazardous fuels. Of course most landowners aren’t living below the poverty line.

Are you saying that the landowner must be living below the poverty line to qualify? What does 'Living below the poverty line" actually mean?

 

[ultrarunner]

I think that you have been given bad information regarding thinning your forestland. Yes, threatened and endangered species habitat has some legal restrictions on management and logging of large trees, but I’ve never seen a T&E species recovery plan that doesn’t have provisions for hazardous fuels thinning. I know you can do that in California spotted owl habitat because we do this on National Forest lands in CA, under consultation with US Fish and Wildlife Service. I recommend talking to someone with your state forestry department or a consulting forester.

Certainly possible on the info.

I looked into it for my forest land in Thurston County Washington and was told being salt water front with 2 salmon bearing streams made me ineligible for anything but a conservation easement consideration.. or I could sell for the tax roll assessed value or donate to the district in a very simple process.

The 20 acres of Live Oak in Oakland comes under the cities tree preservation ordinance... cutting down any single tree requires an expensive permit with lengthy public review process and if granted all work must be done under the supervision of a city arborist to protect nearby flora and if a threatened species found... forget about it.

Thinning by limbing up is required for fire so long as tree not compromised... no permit required...

A friend is a licensed contractor doing mitigation and fire trail maintenance...

Before he can move a fallen log it first has to be approved by a team of UC grads hired to assure moving will not harm habitat or increase erosion...

A salamander under a fallen tree will stop the project in its tracks.

 

[Hay Dude]

Are you saying that the landowner must be living below the poverty line to qualify? What does 'Living below the poverty line" actually mean?

It’s starting to look more and more like “middle class” the way we are going.