Water heater recs please

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Well, I figure even rural folks, like me, need to heat water now and then, so posting this here is appropriate. Anyway, my 17 year old propane water heater is probably getting close to the end of its life and my wife and I figured we should replace it. Consumer Reports was no help. I was surprised and disappointed. I currently am using an AO Smith heater and the reviews on CU say they are junk. They come with a 6 year warranty and last about 6 1/2 years. Rheem got similar results. CU itself didn't even review the different brands. This really bugs me.
So, because CU let me down I am turning to the experts here. I need a new propane water heater. I don't want a tankless heater because all of the tankless water heaters I have experienced were no good for showers. But maybe they are better enough for me to buy one. I am willing to be convinced. Maybe. However, the immediate need is for a propane water heater. Electric is out because of how hard and expensive it would be to run wire to one. I think a heat pump is out too.
Thanks All,
Eric
 
   / Water heater recs please #2  
6 yr warranty means the anode should last 6 yrs. So they only provide a 6 yr tank warranty. You can always buy a larger anode ,or just keep one on hand and replace it every 5 yrs
I really don't understand your comment about tankless being no good for showers .
Never had an issue with mine . I installed it 5 yrs ago
 
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   / Water heater recs please #3  
We have had an AO Smith commercial one for easily twice that. We did add an electronic anode, which I highly recommend if you aren't in the habit of pulling the anode rod out and scrubbing it clean annual and replacing it every few years. (We weren't...)

However, I would seriously consider a heat pump hot water heater instead. Much more energy efficient, and there are some nice incentives available these days.

All the best,

Peter
 
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I just replaced my water heater... um... not last summer but the previous one.

Last water heater was a "State Select"; we installed it in 1997. It literally lasted 25 years with zero maintenance. State Select was purchased by AO Smith in 2001; not sure how that figures into quality. Regardless, that water heater was not necessarily a residential model as it was 75 gallons (I couldn't find specifics about it online a few years ago when looking into another problem).

I did a lot of research and decided to replace with a tankless. Part of the reason I chose this is that we don't expect to be in this house for more than a few years, and everyone likes the "energy efficiency!!!1!" of tankless heaters. The other reason is that it was literally cheaper than a replacement 75 gallon propane tank heater, though it probably took a lot more labor to install since the form factor of the two heaters is entirely different. It was a learning experience for me as I'd never done copper plumbing, but that was really easy to learn - no leaks first time.

I chose Takagi; I bought everything from supplyhouse.com and did all the work. If you go this route (tankless) make sure that you check your propane gas line size before pulling the trigger as tankless may use 2-3x the propane - my old 75g tank heater had an 80k BTU burner, and the tankless has a potential burn rate of 199k BTU at maximum flow (and you need to understand all of the gas uses in the house and on the different branches of the gas pipe). This won't be an issue for you if you replace your heater with one of the same or similar BTU.

My tankless has a recirc pump built in, with an automatic shutoff if it thinks that the recirc loop is warm enough. Given that the heater itself requires a minimum of 0.4 gpm flow before it'll fire up, it's a pain in the @$$ IMO because it means that you can't turn on the sink on "low" with a mixture of hot & cold water such that you're using under 0.4 gpm hot water - it'll literally run cold if you do that and never turn on the burner until the recirc system measurement spot finally senses that its reservoir has cooled. This sort of thing never happened with the big tank because you were always pulling water from the tank regardless of recirc; and of course the tank was always hot.

IMO while they may be more "energy efficient" (I'm not convinced about this either), they're definitely not more water efficient as a result of this because it encourages you to use more hot water in order to avoid getting no hot water.
 
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My power goes out to much for tank less hate cold showers
Gas stays on no matter just a thought
 
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My power goes out to much for tank less hate cold showers
Gas stays on no matter just a thought
Definitely a valid point. Mine was power vented so it wouldn't run without power anyways, but it's a small draw.
Besides with a big tank it'll stay hot enough for a decent amount of time event not running. The tankless sucks for that lol but I've got backup power so no worries.
 
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My water heater was installed in 1995, so I have been thinking about a replacement. There is no gas here. I can get an $800.00 rebate from the electric company for a heat pump water heater or should I just hope I'll get another 30 years from my current unit?
 
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I initially bought a GE Geospring Heat Pump Water Heater (HPWH) from the GE Outlet store because it was advertised as having a 10 year warranty. The heat pump failed after 13 months service...turned out to be a factory defect (read class action lawsuit).

When I contacted GE they said too bad, in Canada they don't honour their written 10 year warranty I get only 1year in Canada FU and thanks for my money.

I will never buy GE products ever again.

I replaced the unit with an 80 gallon OASmith HPWH. It's been running without problems for 7 years now knock on wood.

The HPWH reduce electric water heating costs by 30-50%. They also do a great job of dehumidifying which is a plus in a damp/humid basement. On the minus side they are noisy and take heat from the room. I have a wood stove in my basement so I figure I'm getting assistance from the wood heat for my water.
 
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My next two will definitely be gas, tankless. Both of my tank heaters have been great. My main heater has been in for 25 years.
 

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