So I did a thing... Agria 8900D

   / So I did a thing... Agria 8900D #121  
If you can make telescoping stabilizers,they are way more convenient than turnbuckles.
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#122  
If you can make telescoping stabilizers,they are way more convenient than turnbuckles.
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That's my plan. Have them on my Branson and it's indeed very handy and easy to use.

Space, however, will dictate how am I going to squeeze the stabilizers in there, either telescopic or chains. This tractor has a weird rear end setup with very limited space. Stabilizers on the inside, won't quite work given the PTO gearbox setup. On the outside of the lift arms, may work but will be very tight.

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I think I may have a plan for the 3 pt that shouldn't even require stabilizers. Just brainstorming though.

Another option would be to make some spacers for the wheels, so I would get some room for the stabilizers, but then it would make the tractor over 1 meter wide, so the tiller that came with it wouldn't cover the tracks.

Anyway, this is one of my plans:

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   / So I did a thing... Agria 8900D #124  
Put the stabilizers on the inside of the lift arms like the Toolcat:

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Put the stabilizers on the inside of the lift arms like the Toolcat:

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No room for that. Check picture on post #122. The PTO gearbox sticks out too much for that and for those to work well, it would need to be in the same pivot shaft as the lift arms which is impossible since there is a gearbox in the way.
 
   / So I did a thing... Agria 8900D #126  
No room for that. Check picture on post #122. The PTO gearbox sticks out too much for that and for those to work well, it would need to be in the same pivot shaft as the lift arms which is impossible since there is a gearbox in the way.
I'm waiting to see your solution. I'm sure you will come up with something that works well. I wish you lived near me so that I could ask permission to drive the thing. It looks like a truly novel driving experience.
Eric
 
   / So I did a thing... Agria 8900D #127  
This kind of tractor is extremely rare to even see in the USA.
 
   / So I did a thing... Agria 8900D #128  
That's my plan. Have them on my Branson and it's indeed very handy and easy to use.

Space, however, will dictate how am I going to squeeze the stabilizers in there, either telescopic or chains. This tractor has a weird rear end setup with very limited space. Stabilizers on the inside, won't quite work given the PTO gearbox setup. On the outside of the lift arms, may work but will be very tight.

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There's a green piece hanging down from the axle just inside of the tire. Is that the pivot point for the lower 3pt arms or are the pivots on the rear case next to the pto outputs?
It would seem from the pics that one would be pivots and the other would be stabilizer attachment points
 
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There's a green piece hanging down from the axle just inside of the tire. Is that the pivot point for the lower 3pt arms or are the pivots on the rear case next to the pto outputs?
It would seem from the pics that one would be pivots and the other would be stabilizer attachment points
Maybe these pictures will help a bit better. For some context, this are looking from the back at the left side of the tractor. Left picture is looking from above and the right picture is looking from behind.

The U shaped bracket is where the lower lift arms attach and pivot. The vertical plate in front of that bracket is part of the original 3 pt setup, where the arms would rub on it but this provides a fixed spacing on the arms, so if I need to go any narrower, I can't. If I need to go wider (most likely), the will be a lot of side to side play.

Between the tire and the vertical plate, I have 3" to 4" of space to work with.

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I'm waiting to see your solution. I'm sure you will come up with something that works well. I wish you lived near me so that I could ask permission to drive the thing. It looks like a truly novel driving experience.
Eric
It's just an entire country and a tiny ocean in between. :)

It's very cool to drive, maneuvers in tight spots super nice, but I'll say right away, it's a very tight operators platform, even for me that I'm slightly vertically challenged. Specially coming from a open platform tractor with lots of room.

Even though it's basic transmission with straight cut gears, it still shifts very nice and smooth. I can easily change all 4 gears and High/Low ranges on the move easily and no grinding at all.

I did took some more pictures with the hood and also checking the pivot range. It will still twist a lot more than that but I wanted to get out of the rain.

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Another thought is making an adjustable chain or cable X assembly between the two lower 3pt arms maybe adjustable with turnbuckles to prevent racking of the arms similar to how it is done with a gate or lightweight construction like in the pic. This could be a minimal space solution

Edit: I suppose "racking" isn't the correct term here as the pivot points are fixed but I'm sure you get my meaning
 

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This kind of tractor is extremely rare to even see in the USA.
I've seen a couple of videos from some Pasquali tractors in the US. Pasquali tractors are very similar to this one.

Once I finish it, I'll take some pictures of it side by side with the Branson. That will give a good perception on the size of it.
 
   / So I did a thing... Agria 8900D #133  
The vertical plate is your stabilizer. You could make additional lower arms with offsets to make the spacing narrower or wider.

This is how it is done on a John Deere 2640. You can invert the blocks to change the spacing.

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   / So I did a thing... Agria 8900D #134  
The vertical plate is your stabilizer. You could make additional lower arms with offsets to make the spacing narrower or wider.
You could also put a large bolt and locknut through the lower 3pt arms that rides on the edge of that vertical plate and could be adjusted for over width attachments
 
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I've seen a couple of videos from some Pasquali tractors in the US. Pasquali tractors are very similar to this one.

Once I finish it, I'll take some pictures of it side by side with the Branson. That will give a good perception on the size of it.
Although I have seen pictures, I have never seen one like yours in person in Middle Tennessee, USA.

So far as the 3pt hitch goes, not having telescoping arms isn't as much a hinderance if you don't change implements often or if they aren't really heavy. I think telescoping arms are more advantageous when implements are frequently changed or they are so heavy that they become a pain to move into position.
 
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The vertical plate is your stabilizer. You could make additional lower arms with offsets to make the spacing narrower or wider.

This is how it is done on a John Deere 2640. You can invert the blocks to change the spacing.

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I was aware that some JD models had that. Mine are fixed though, no way to adjust, but you did game me an idea of either add shims on the inside of the arms or machine a wedge that slides back and forth to adjust for different spacing.
 
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Although I have seen pictures, I have never seen one like yours in person in Middle Tennessee, USA.

So far as the 3pt hitch goes, not having telescoping arms isn't as much a hinderance if you don't change implements often or if they aren't really heavy. I think telescoping arms are more advantageous when implements are frequently changed or they are so heavy that they become a pain to move into position.
I have the Euro hooks on my Branson. It came standard with those. After using them, I really wouldn't go for anything left. Just back up to the implement with the arms under the lower pins of the implement that have the balls fitted, lift the 3 pt and it's latched. Don't even need to man handle the arms.

I won't get them for the Agria because I don't think I'm going to change implements all that often. Most of the implements stay with the Branson in the remote propriety and the Agria will have it's proprietary tiller attached if I decide to keep it. A set of Cat 1 hooks is about $140, not that expensive for the convenience of it.

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Preliminary stages of the dashboard, although, not much will change. Just missing the indicator switch in the middle. Need to machine a new lever for that as the plastic one was too brittle and broke.

Just ignore the fact that some idiot slapped the tachometer/hour meter behind the front locker lever. The very same idiot, in order to avoid breaking the key for the ignition, stored it so well that now can't find it anywhere. 🤦‍♂️

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   / So I did a thing... Agria 8900D #139  
I can't believe that won't bug you enough to relocate the tach, lol.
 
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I can't believe that won't bug you enough to relocate the tach, lol.
It bothers me a little bit, just not enough to change it.

The angle of that picture makes it look worse than it is. Looking from the seal, the handle only blocks a little bit at the bottom. I can still see the RPM easily.

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