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   / Online real estate pictures #61  
I bought my first house in 1977, I think I paid 8.5% and thought I was getting a bargain. Within a year mortgage rates were over 9.


Part of the problem is that it seems that everyone today wants a "move in ready" house at a bargain price. Both houses I've owned were as you described...estate properties previously owned by a long-time widow and needed lots of TLC. Most of my friends' first houses were also fixer uppers. No less "desirable", just more affordable and with some work can be just as desirable as anything else.
Back when I started all my home buying friends bought distressed or bad neighborhoods.

Now... good neighborhood and updated.
 
   / Online real estate pictures #62  
We actually took a drive-by on a 13.5 acre piece with a 5/2 manufactured (2018 model) today. The ad did have good pictures of the home, and maybe the 50 ft around it, but kinda would have liked some pictures of surrounding woods, and the pond at the back. Did some G-earth work, and it does appear the pond dries completely up at times.

We did speak to mortgage people, and it sounds like it might be doable, if we like it on viewing. It's a stretch on the money, but frankly everything in our part of FLa is. Plus side, our existing home, 3/2, 1400 sq ft, on 2 acres should be about 3x what we bought it for in 2008.

Got to upload some $$$ docs to get a fire pre-qualification, and then schedule a viewing. Will see where this goes, and foe the price, it's going to have to impress.
 
   / Online real estate pictures #63  
Aerial of property mentioned above.
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   / Online real estate pictures #64  
In 2001 I paid 10,500 for my 21 acres. Everyone told me that I was crazy to spend that much.
When we bought our additional land back in 2005, I thought $3,500 an acre was on the high side, but my wife and I agreed that we didn't want to run the risk of anyone building behind the house.
I was surprised to find how expensive land was even out here in the relative sticks in '05 when I bought this place. Don't recall offhand what I paid, but it was more than what yours cost you. In '07-08 when the real estate market tanked, the bottom kind of fell out of house prices, but land didn't fall much if at all.
 
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I was surprised to find how expensive land was even out here in the relative sticks in '05 when I bought this place. Don't recall offhand what I paid, but it was more than what yours cost you. In '07-08 when the real estate market tanked, the bottom kind of fell out of house prices, but land didn't fall much if at all.
When we bought our home in 2005, house came with 6 acres. We were offered an additional 32 acres at that $3,500 per acre price.

Thing is, we had a home to sell at the time carrying two mortgages.

People crucify real estate agents, but ours represented both us and the seller, and he was personal friends with the seller. That real estate guy was worth every penny he charged by offering us two options and well as working with the farm credit union for the additional property.

We struggled with the land option, but everyone I talked to told me they aren't making land anymore, and that it would be worth while to buy the land. Now that everything is paid off, very happy we chose to buy the additional land. Then I was just hoping we could break even 25 years later if we sell and downsize, and I don't think that will be an issue now.

I'm in Key West right now for a "working vacation" and I'll have to look at what land is going for down here:ROFLMAO:
 
   / Online real estate pictures #66  
I was surprised to find how expensive land was even out here in the relative sticks in '05 when I bought this place. Don't recall offhand what I paid, but it was more than what yours cost you. In '07-08 when the real estate market tanked, the bottom kind of fell out of house prices, but land didn't fall much if at all.
I'm in a 'Redi' county, with some of the worst schools in the state, and property has gotten crazy here too. Don't get me wrong, I like the county, but don't expect much as far as gov services, typically high crime/drugs/property crimes, and property prices are skyrocketing. But, what I do like; you want a porch, build a porch; you want to have an above ground pool, do it; they aren't big on either government enforcement or services.

Without being political, I think some of the stuff that FLa resisted during/after Covid, really got a lot of people moving down here.
 
   / Online real estate pictures #67  
People crucify real estate agents, but ours represented both us and the seller, and he was personal friends with the seller. That real estate guy was worth every penny he charged by offering us two options and well as working with the farm credit union for the additional property.
Like any profession, there are good, bad and all shades in between. My sisters and I just put the house we grew up in on the market. The agent we're using is a guy we all knew as kids, and as it happens his father was the one who sold that house to my parents back in 1950. Looking at the on-line pictures, it's amazing how he staged the interior shots to make the rooms look much more spacious than they really are.
I'm in a 'Redi' county, with some of the worst schools in the state, and property has gotten crazy here too. Don't get me wrong, I like the county, but don't expect much as far as gov services, typically high crime/drugs/property crimes, and property prices are skyrocketing. But, what I do like; you want a porch, build a porch; you want to have an above ground pool, do it; they aren't big on either government enforcement or services.
Not that familiar with Florida, been there a few times and it didn't appeal to me at all. Then again, I like mountains and rather dislike heat & humidity.
We have relatively few rules where I live, no building permits or anything like that. Not much in the way of services but crime is low and taxes not too outrageous. Don't really know about schools here, we're in our 70s and not planning on having any kids.
 
   / Online real estate pictures #68  
Like any profession, there are good, bad and all shades in between.
Lawyers came to mind as I read that. Despite the rhetoric, they are a necessary part of life for many of us. My siblings and I went with my mother last year when she updated her will, and I was impressed with the lawyer. She takes her job as an elderly advocate very seriously.
 
   / Online real estate pictures #69  
It’s a good thing to do as even during the pandemic laws change…

A big property law that had been law since 1986 changed and mom and dad really thought they had everything the best they could…

Couldn’t get a review in 2020 and by 2021 the options provided no longer exist.
 
   / Online real estate pictures #70  
Looking at the on-line pictures, it's amazing how he staged the interior shots to make the rooms look much more spacious than they really are.
Insider secret: professional property photographers typically use a 35mm DSLR camera. So far, ho hum. But then strap a 10mm lens onto the camera, and all the rooms suddenly look huge.

Take the same photo using your cell phone camera and it can look like two completely different rooms and properties.

It is a double edged sword though. The buyers seeing fantastic online photos arrive at the property to learn what the more correct version is ....
 
   / Online real estate pictures #71  
Insider secret: professional property photographers typically use a 35mm DSLR camera. So far, ho hum. But then strap a 10mm lens onto the camera, and all the rooms suddenly look huge.

Take the same photo using your cell phone camera and it can look like two completely different rooms and properties.

It is a double edged sword though. The buyers seeing fantastic online photos arrive at the property to learn what the more correct version is ....
It's not just using a wide-angle lens - they definitely stretch the pictures horizontally to make rooms appear more spacious. You need the wide-angle lens to get the whole room in the pic, yes, but it's not enough.
 
   / Online real estate pictures #72  
I'm looking at land again, might do a land swap, sell one and buy another. I'm finding a lot of drone only shots for land, which shows a nice view from above the trees, but there is no view from the ground.

Realtor I asked to put an offer in for me, tried to slip in a 4% buyers contract that I can only buy thru her, or I still have to pay 4% if I use someone else. Not signing that.
 
   / Online real estate pictures #73  
Didn't want to drift too much from original post, so I started a generic rural real estate thread in related topics.
 
   / Online real estate pictures #74  
Realtor I asked to put an offer in for me, tried to slip in a 4% buyers contract
The entire real estate transaction market was recently upended by a major court decision. As of July sellers can no longer offer a commission to the broker on the buyer's side. So expect a lot of new demands from "buyer's" agents such as up front commission or paying hourly fees.

This was a major landmark decision/stipulated agreement that is upending the way real estate business is done. It is hard to overstate the sweeping impact it will have, and is already causing. It may take some time before it shakes out and a "new normal" is figured out. If you are a buyer right now, that is not a very good spot. Lots of uncertainty.
 
   / Online real estate pictures #75  
or I still have to pay 4% if I use someone else
If it is for the same property that you would switch to another broker on I believe her expectation is reasonable. (not sure I would agree with 4% though!)

If I take the time and trouble to show a property, do research, negotiate, review deeds, etc. and then have my prospective buyer cut me out to write an offer through someone else I still would expect a commission since I did the upfront work. Presuming I got such an agreement in writing, of course.
 
   / Online real estate pictures #76  
It's not just using a wide-angle lens - they definitely stretch the pictures horizontally to make rooms appear more spacious.
I don't know of any RE photographers who do that. But maybe they do?

Seems that "stretching" photos to present a false impression is fraud.
 
   / Online real estate pictures #77  
If it is for the same property that you would switch to another broker on I believe her expectation is reasonable. (not sure I would agree with 4% though!)

If I take the time and trouble to show a property, do research, negotiate, review deeds, etc. and then have my prospective buyer cut me out to write an offer through someone else I still would expect a commission since I did the upfront work. Presuming I got such an agreement in writing, of course.
she's the listing agent, so she will get her cut. And I think the seller is a relative, like maybe her husband. I asked and she ignored my question. But the 4% is for any property I buy, so if this one falls thru, I will have to pay her if I buy another piece of property with another agent that doesn't involve her.
 
   / Online real estate pictures #78  
I don't know of any RE photographers who do that. But maybe they do?

Seems that "stretching" photos to present a false impression is fraud.
Look at practically any professionally done photos of house interiors on zillow and look at the door width to height ratios.
At first glance you don't realize why rooms look so big but once you see it you'll get it.

Here's an example from a house mentioned above:
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From this picture my impression is that that's a 42-48" wide door. Really though who puts in single doors that wide? Probably 30-36".
Check out that 2-gang switch plate. It's wayyyyyy to wide.
Also look at the window "panes"; they're way too wide as well.
If it was only the wide-angle lens, the height/width ratios should stay reasonable.

Here, I shrank the horizontal by about 20%. IMO the wall plate looks like it's in better proportion; the door now looks like it's 36" to me. Window panes look better too
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But honestly it's probably still stretched too much. Here's an exterior shot of those windows:
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I probably haven't un-stretched the horizontal enough from that view, the interior shot is still way too "oversquare" - looks much wider than it is tall while the actual window is taller than it is wide!

Here's a similar pic:
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That inset space on the right is for a washer & dryer (though they seem to have forgotten the dryer vent?). Looks super wide to me. Also note that the stretching affects how long that toilet looks - it's likely a standard bowl but it looks like a very long bowl.
Using the same settings as the previous pair, I un-stretched:
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Proportions are better.

The most obvious stretch comes from the kitchen:
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If I stretch the outside shot to have the closer to the ratios as kitchen window in the above inside shot here's what the house looks like (this took a 50% stretch):
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Unstretched outside shot of kitchen window looks normal:
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   / Online real estate pictures #79  
Well, locally, I can't tell you how many homes/properties that butt upto a mud puddle pond, use stock photos of a very large, nice, lake (few thousand acres) about 10 miles away. I think their argument is, those pictures are of what's available in the area, but sure seems misleading. Stretching photos seems the same. Probably not illegal, but sure bordering on dishonest.
 
   / Online real estate pictures #80  
Well, locally, I can't tell you how many homes/properties that butt upto a mud puddle pond, use stock photos of a very large, nice, lake (few thousand acres) about 10 miles away. I think their argument is, those pictures are of what's available in the area, but sure seems misleading. Stretching photos seems the same. Probably not illegal, but sure bordering on dishonest.
Strong agree. The "in the area" is more obvious when there's picture of a farmer's market in the local town before you get to the physical features that are 10 miles away, but IMO they still don't belong on the photo roll of the house features.
Stretching photos IMO is absolutely dishonest; the fact that they had all of that view in the original wide-angle lens but then manipulated it to look different - not just increasing the brightness or HDR so you can see features, but literally change the perception of what you spend the most to buy - square footage.
 

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