What do you all do to be prepared for long term power loss?

   / What do you all do to be prepared for long term power loss? #51  
If power goes you will not be getting any propane delivered. Gas pumps that run the truck are electric. If power goes out for over a month it will be very messy.

Not true. It could still be delivered for a period of time. Longer than if NG is shut off from an EMP or bombing, etc.

It depends on who you buy from, how much they have stored and how long the outtage is. And remember, I plan on having a lot stored and using it sparingly. NG is not typically stored. It is piped in as it is used.

Again, if you read my post, solar with batteries is my ultimate.

If I can find space for enough panels and a battery storage unit, this is what I will do.

We have lots of deer, turkey, goose and fish around here for food and a garden
 
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   / What do you all do to be prepared for long term power loss? #52  
What I struggle with is that I could not do just that.

Some think of Jesus Christ of carrying a sword to kill his enemies and justify that "sword", but I do not.

No different than how Muslims interpret the Koran IMO as far as killing others.

A very long time ago as a grunt working, I stopped to help a old lady shoveling her driveway (I could have gotten in a lot of trouble for doing so).

I stopped to help this older woman because I remembered what my mother had told me, to treat people like my mother would expect me to treat her and my father if I saw them in need.

When I saw that old lady working to shovel her driveway, I couldn't help but think if that was my own mother, so I stopped and helped her and did her driveway.

What I have learned in business is do what it right and let the chips fall where they will, and generally, it will work out.

When I give a bum panhandling on the street $20, I don't care if he buys drugs, it's what my intent is, NOT his (generally I offer to buy them food in person and see where it goes...).

When it gets to the point that I say no to everyone in need, in my own line of thinking as a Christian, I'm ready for Heaven as I know what Heaven is to myself and I'm done with being an arsehole ;)

Perhaps when you lose a son, it gives you a different perspective and being more at ease joining him instead of fighting for your life at all costs so you can breath on this world to give yourself another day;)

For myself, my own God judges you on your own actions even if you can't how everything plays out 100 years from now...

You leave out there are people that will TAKE what you have, they will not need or wait for you to give it to them. And what you do give will never be enough. They will kill you and yours, hopefully you and yours will not be "used". Doubt me that this will happen, turn on the TV. That will tell you just how people are with a full stomach, now take that away and imagine just how bad they will be.

You may be ready for heaven, but what these people are possible of putting you through I can tell you no one is ready for that. It will be bad BAD.

 
   / What do you all do to be prepared for long term power loss? #53  
Where I live is remote but I do have electricity. Nothing else. Been here 43 years. Longest outage in all this time - 28 hours. I belong to an electric Co-Op. They have outages - scheduled 2X annually. One in the spring - one in the fall. Two hours each time.

If there were ever a two month outage - it would be due to something a whole Hell of a lot more serious than lack of power. Something like - Yellowstone volcano going off or the like.

No more chicken for the kid here. It's going to be fresh meat - like it or not.
 
   / What do you all do to be prepared for long term power loss? #54  
It depends on who you buy from, how much they have stored and how long the outtage is.

Again, if you read my post, solar with batteries is my ultimate.

If I can find space for enough panels and a battery storage unit, this is what I will do.

Batteries and solar is good, but again not the answer for all. We have been without sun for over a week. I can't run the freezers/fridge, really the only thing that matters.

I was thinking the layout of this is several months. Several months and the gas stations will be dead, looted and destroyed.
 
   / What do you all do to be prepared for long term power loss? #55  
Batteries and solar is good, but again not the answer for all. We have been without sun for over a week. I can't run the freezers/fridge, really the only thing that matters.

Never said it was a panacea, but the batteries can go a while and with enough stored, propane can take over when solar not working.

I was thinking the layout of this is several months. Several months and the gas stations will be dead, looted and destroyed.
I’m not worried about gas stations.

Solar with storage batteries and a large propane/diesel storage tank & whole house gen set can go a long way. Especially knowing when the SHTF, we will be conserving energy like our lives depended on it. We won’t be living “normally”. “Frugal” will be like luxury in a SHTF scenario


Nobody gonna live forever, but a few months is about all I can expect until hopefully the “troops arrive”.

Let me know what your amazing plan is. Maybe we can all learn something. I’ll be here eagerly awaiting your plan. Ad BTW, I don’t really disagree with what you are saying, its just that it’s the most reasonable plan I can come up with.
 
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   / What do you all do to be prepared for long term power loss? #56  
Yep. When it comes to roughing it, there’s not many better off than myself. I’m willing to kill & eat game or fish for it. I am well stocked with G&A and still a damn good hunter. I also have plenty of alternate forms of currency.
You're a better man than myself.

I've humped mileage wise well that totals mileage wise coast to coast in my younger years living on the ground. No problem doing so "back then".

The issue is pushing 60 now, and having a back operation years ago as well as to needing a shoulder replaced which I haven't got to, I can't do the same crap I use to to as a younger man without killing my body.

It's called getting old...
 
   / What do you all do to be prepared for long term power loss? #57  
You leave out there are people that will TAKE what you have, they will not need or wait for you to give it to them.
No, you are wrong.

I stated that it was common sense on why you would need to kill others.

The issue becomes when you start killing due to common sense, where you draw the line as to what is just because killing becomes often.

It's a pipe dream I realize, but just as there are bad people in this world, but there are good people in the same world as well.

The issue is it becomes harder over time to stay "good" vs being bad.

If you're lucky, when you take a human life, it doesn't stay with you no matter what the circumstance, good or bad.
 
   / What do you all do to be prepared for long term power loss? #58  
I figure I will also post a photo of the book as well.

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   / What do you all do to be prepared for long term power loss? #59  
Never said it was a panacea, but the batteries can go a while and with enough stored, propane can take over when solar not working.


I’m not worried about gas stations.

Solar with storage batteries and a large propane/diesel storage tank & whole house gen set can go a long way. Especially knowing when the SHTF, we will be conserving energy like our lives depended on it. We won’t be living “normally”. “Frugal” will be like luxury in a SHTF scenario


Nobody gonna live forever, but a few months is about all I can expect until hopefully the “troops arrive”.

Let me know what your amazing plan is. Maybe we can all learn something. I’ll be here eagerly awaiting your plan.

Well you think your propane truck will come, and I doubt it will. That is why I am saying what I am about the gas stations.

I have a fairly robust DIY solar setup. I have run my stuff (fridge and both freezers) off of it for one day, then done the math. It should run about a week on my current setup with no charging whatso ever. My setup is 1400Ah of battery power, and 1700watts of solar panels currently. I am going to add another 500w of solar panels after the 3 axis is installed.

As I have said before we have not seen the sun in over a week, nothing but rain, and we are to get T-storms again tonight, with at least a 60% chance of rain all week. Last week we got over 4.5" of rain, and yesterday we got another half inch. Flash flooding is a real issue.

Personally I built my house very close to where the B2 bombers live, thinking I would be pretty close to ground zero and go up in a flash of light. Now I think it will not come to that, and will go like the PDF I linked above. Electricity will be for keeping food fresh, and charging your radio to learn just what the heck is going on.
 
   / What do you all do to be prepared for long term power loss? #60  
Curious what you all do to be prepared for a long term power outage due to weather, grid damaged by whatever. I've been telling may family to be prepared in the even of a sustained outage (longer than a month or two).

I don't feel sufficiently prepared for an outage that long, and I know my kids are not. If we had a coordinated attack on our grid that took out major components it could take months to get some things back in operation.

Right now, I have two generators, access to 100 gallons of gas, a freezer full of food and some canning supplies (not enough). I have a plan but would need to get a few more supplies. I do plan to put in a larger than normal garden this year, partly because of food prices and health reasons.
Nothing, 62 years old, lived in Minnesota all my life and I think I’ve only gone a couple days without power.

We own a food truck so we have 3 huge freezers with about 400 lbs of brisket 500 lbs of pork butt’s and 60 racks of ribs and on racks in the garage is about 450 16.9 oz bottles of water and 500 cans of pop
 
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