IMHO THIS TRACTOR PUTS JD TO SHAME!

[dieselscout80]

One other thing to keep in mind at least around here and that is, 99% of the commercial farmers here are all running JD equipment and are 'married' to JD so they won't be purchasing anything else, anyway. Never seen a Fendt here and probably won't either. No way with the nearest Fendt dealer being so far away that any of them would even consider buying one or leasing one for that matter. JD actually has 3 dealers within 50 miles of us. 99% of everything here is green and I expect that won't change no matter how good the warranty is. All has to do with dealer location and parts and service availability. Keep in mind that all new tractors are T4 final and ECM controlled, consequently, for most issues other than very routine maintenance, dealer intervention will be required.

I think buying what your local dealer has makes the most sense especially when downtime means maybe the loss of a planting or harvest time/opportunity.

 

[deserteagle71]

Just checked for Fendt dealers near me. Nearest one is ~ 250 miles...and has NO tractors in stock.

 

[wolc123]

Just checked for Fendt dealers near me. Nearest one is ~ 250 miles...and has NO tractors in stock.

There’s probably a bunch of them stranded in Baltimore.

 

[Hay Dude]

The closest Fendt dealer to me is over 130 miles away so they are a no sale for me. Besides, I'm not looking for a new tractor anyway. If I was, it would not be them, but by the same token, not a JD either.

A guy making 100 round bales with a 90HP kubota doesn’t need a Fendt.

 

[Hay Dude]

There’s probably a bunch of them stranded in Baltimore.

I remember thinking Agriteer was lucky they got their shipment before the attack on the Francis Scott Key Bridge.

 

[MapleLeafFarmer]

the first 25 post have said it all... very nice, great quality, fantastic to use, popular on other side of world, etc...

The one thing not yet said is downtime.... JD and Kubota have the shortest commercial downtime ratings in our area (probably in N.A.). Both dealers around me deliver parts 24 hours a day / 7 days a week right to a GPS location in a field.

Unless a competitor can beat these downtime numbers and quick service/parts commercial users (us guys that require our equipment to make a living) will never consider changing as we only have limited windows to make our work and need our equipment up and running. Downtime can be wickedly expensive.

other than the odd Hutterite colony, in our area not too many of us have good / used 1/4 million dollar tractors standing by in case primary equipment breaks.

But I sure wouldn't be ashamed to own one if the luxury of parts and service was a non issue.

 

[jyoutz]

No thank you, lol; I don't have a quarter mil to drop on a house, a used tractor of that price is just a painful tease.

A quarter million house is a fixer upper in many locations.

 

[ultrarunner]

All my cousins that farm or forestry have Fendt…

Fendt tractors go back to 1930 and during war years it sold gasification tractors that used wood fuel.

The family was well know for clock tower clocks.

Some of the cousins have very old yet very dependable Fendts and I believe Fendt is still the market leader in Western Europe.

Steyr is the Austrian competitor and Steyr is the Mercedes of tractors as Steyr makes the Mercedes G wagon and is also Arms maker.

Every little mountain farm's first tractor was a single cylinder diesel hand crank back in the 1940’s.

That said small Kubota tractors are making inroads.

 

[Agvg]

Just checked for Fendt dealers near me. Nearest one is ~ 250 miles...and has NO tractors in stock.

Most Fendt tractors are tailor made to the customers, here in Europe most all tractors are built specifically for the use and wishes of the buyer. The same with cars, most dealers only have a few demo cars, you order the car as you want it. They might have a few "std" cars premade for order located at a storage but it takes time to get them to.

 

[Agvg]

Ever bother to look underneath your 'Sprinter' van? Look hard because there is no frame. They are all welded together Unibody construction so don't get in an accident with it because the repair costs are astronomical. How do I know? I know because the outfit I retired from had a pai of them for parts delivery and one got in a wreck and because they also had a repair shop they decided to repair it themselves and it turned into a nightmare cutting it apart and welding it back together and I got to watch and it was ugly.

European vans haven't had a frame for many decades, it makes no sense for this type of vehicle.

Do believe the last MB van with a frame was the Vario

 

[hodge]

They're coming; of course farms have to continue existing to buy new equipment.

There are a couple Fendt's in the area, but no dealership anywhere close by. You just about can't swing a cat without hitting a Deere or Kubota dealership.

I live in a very rural area, but there aren't huge farms. So, I expect that Fendt's won't make a huge showing (or change) in my region.

They have nothing under 94 hp. Until they expand their line, they won't grow to the size of Kubota or Deere. Comparing an apple to an apple, they stand out against a comparable large Deere or Kubota tractor. But, they won't touch the sub compact and compact market unless they offer something. So, when comparing an individual tractor, there's virtue. When comparing the company, they are missing a HUGE market, and are no comparison.

 

[Hay Dude]

There are a couple Fendt's in the area, but no dealership anywhere close by. You just about can't swing a cat without hitting a Deere or Kubota dealership.

I live in a very rural area, but there aren't huge farms. So, I expect that Fendt's won't make a huge showing (or change) in my region.

They have nothing under 94 hp. Until they expand their line, they won't grow to the size of Kubota or Deere. Comparing an apple to an apple, they stand out against a comparable large Deere or Kubota tractor. But, they won't touch the sub compact and compact market unless they offer something. So, when comparing an individual tractor, there's virtue. When comparing the company, they are missing a HUGE market, and are no comparison.

You have a dealer 35 miles from Love, VA near Harrisonburg called Agriteer.
They are an AGCO dealer and probably the largest Fendt dealer in the Eastern US.

 

[tacticalturnip]

A quarter million house is a fixer upper in many locations.

Yeah. I know. I don't live there, I live here, and I still can't afford it.

Thanks for working hard to keep reality right in my sights, lest I drift off to a world as crazy and unrealistic as 5 years ago.

My tractor and my truck combined don't add up to a modern mortgage payment, it's ******* disgusting.

 

[Agvg]

Don't think Fendt is interested in the small tractor segment, here Fendt has a 78 hp tractor but the price is a tad under 100000$ if I remember correctly, not particularly cheap...

 

[5030]

A guy making 100 round bales with a 90HP kubota doesn’t need a Fendt.

If you want to go back to making smart arsed comments about something you know absolutely nothing about, I can start making smart arsed comments about you bailing mulch hay and selling it to mushroom growers for bedding. I don't make mulch hay, all the hay I make is high grade vernal alfalfa and it's all sold before I even cut it and has been for the last 5 years, cash on the barrel head and I make a tad more than 100 bales anyway. FYI, I was just offered another 25 acres of fallow ground to fit up (amendments and seed with vernal alfalfa) and run on shares because the owner knows I pre sell all of the hay so no fiddling with customers at all and I told him I was not interested. I gear what I do to what I can handle alone and being 74 years old, I don't want any additional ground. In fact, I presently have too much and will probably cut back next year and as far as my Kubota M9's are concerned, they both fit my power requirements perfectly, are very fuel efficient and need little upkeep other than routine maintenance plus they are paid for long ago. I don't need big fancy units like you and I don't need to make large squares because my one customer is geared for rounds only.

I have no desire to be a 'big' operator like you, never have been. I grow and harvest certified high quality alfalfa hay and it will stay that way, despite your snarky comments. When you make comments like that, that tells me you are a shallow thinking person. I took you off 'ignore' simply because I thought you matured a bit. I'm thinking you have not. One more snarky comment and you are back on ignore and I'll leave it at that.

 

[BigBlue1]

If you want real-world experience on Fendts and how they stack up to other brands (JD, CaseIH) go check out the 'Mike Mitchell' YouTube channel. He runs a very large farming operation in southern Saskatchewan and uses tons of different equipment. Has plenty of Fendt and plenty of other tractors & combines. Fendts are great but they have their issues too. The models with non-M.A.N. engines are apparently real biotches to start in cold temps. It's kinda like the situation with major automakers or motorcycle manufacturers these days... Some brands excel at some things, some excel at others, they're all pretty good. By no means is Fendt head and shoulders above all others.

 

[5030]

the first 25 post have said it all... very nice, great quality, fantastic to use, popular on other side of world, etc...

The one thing not yet said is downtime.... JD and Kubota have the shortest commercial downtime ratings in our area (probably in N.A.). Both dealers around me deliver parts 24 hours a day / 7 days a week right to a GPS location in a field.

Unless a competitor can beat these downtime numbers and quick service/parts commercial users (us guys that require our equipment to make a living) will never consider changing as we only have limited windows to make our work and need our equipment up and running. Downtime can be wickedly expensive.

other than the odd Hutterite colony, in our area not too many of us have good / used 1/4 million dollar tractors standing by in case primary equipment breaks.

But I sure wouldn't be ashamed to own one if the luxury of parts and service was a non issue.

One nice aspect of me owning 2 M9's and now a Kubota round bailer and most likely a new Kubota center point disc machine is, besides working for my dealer part time, delivering new units and fiddling in the shop and most likely causing extra work for the tech's is I get all my required parts and filters as well as Kubota lubricants delivered to the farm and no charge. I call Greg (parts manager), I tell him what I need and he pulls the necessary stuff and drops it off himself (he lives about 2 miles from here) so that works for me perfectly. Why would I ever consider owning anything else but Kubota.

I have to admit that Kubota don't make their own hay tools, just badged Kubota but made in Italy but still warranted by them. In fact I have ongoing issues with my new round bailer (forage wrapping on the main drive roll) and my dealer is adding an additional scraper assembly to it (it's there presently) at no cost to me what so ever. In fact it was authorized by the Kubota regional rep. I cannot find any fault with my dealer and never have. They treat me like family and always have. In fact I bought my open station used from a JD dealer 400 miles from here, had it delivered to my dealer and it's considered as one of theirs and if I need anything that requires dealer intervention, it get dealt with promptly just like my other Cab unit I did buy there.

 

[Hay Dude]

Don't think Fendt is interested in the small tractor segment, here Fendt has a 78 hp tractor but the price is a tad under 100000$ if I remember correctly, not particularly cheap...

You get what you pay for.
Kubota don’t come with a 3yr, 3,000 hour warranty and free 48 hour tractor replacement.

 

[Hay Dude]

If you want real-world experience on Fendts and how they stack up to other brands (JD, CaseIH) go check out the 'Mike Mitchell' YouTube channel. He runs a very large farming operation in southern Saskatchewan and uses tons of different equipment. Has plenty of Fendt and plenty of other tractors & combines. Fendts are great but they have their issues too. The models with non-M.A.N. engines are apparently real biotches to start in cold temps. It's kinda like the situation with major automakers or motorcycle manufacturers these days... Some brands excel at some things, some excel at others, they're all pretty good. By no means is Fendt head and shoulders above all others.

I have a AGCO/Challenger with a Sisu diesel. You’d think it would be a great cold starting engine since afterall, it’s made in Finland.

But it’s not lol

I have also heard when buying used fendt, it’s best to hunt you down one with a MAN diesel. The Deutz’s are less popular. My dealer was close to selling me one, but advised me some of the Deutz equipped models were giving them troubles

 

[5030]

Far as I'm concerned ANY post 4 computer controlled emissions compliant high pressure common rail tractor, with any sort of after treatment (SCR, DEF injection or particulate cannister) will, at some point, require dealer or authorized by the manufacturer) intervention and that encompasses all brands, so it would not be a prudent investment in any unit where the nearest servicing dealer is hundreds of miles away. Look at how many new posts come on here with people owning small tractors and having emissions related issues. Probably a good percentage of them transpire from not reading the owners manuals and following the correct regen procedures but I do get to see not only them in the shop, but larger (as in over 120 horse) units in the shop with emissions issues as well).

That ain't for me and never will be. I was brought up under the guideline that if there was no smoke, there was no fire and both mine smoke if loaded hard.