2022 Bronco sport review

   / 2022 Bronco sport review #101  
They are not an HD pickup so the "full frame" is not really a big deal. They are a nice mid-sized SUV that gets reasonable mileage and gets people to where they need to go. We have a HD truck and it is great for some things, doing a 500-mile road trip or a daily commute to work for my wife is not one of them. I can take our non-full frame SUV and get where I am going using ½ the fuel the pickup does and even park in a place my truck would not easily fit.
You take a substantial side hit, you'll wish it had a full frame. I feel much more secure in my wife's Suburban LTZ than I do in my Focus RS Turbo hatchback and even more secure in my Ford F350 pickup truck and candidly I care little about fuel mileage and more about staying safe and alive with all the idiots on the roads today.

In reality, a sub compact buggy or even a grocery mon wannabe SUV would be destroyed if it hit my truck and I'd most likely drive away. Same deal with the Suburban but certainly not with my Focus. it's a wad of tinfoil with a supercar engine. I don't commute. My business is right here. Walk out the back door, take 15 steps to the machine shop and I'm at work supervising my employees and wife is gainfully retired as well.
 
   / 2022 Bronco sport review
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#102  
You take a substantial side hit, you'll wish it had a full frame. I feel much more secure in my wife's Suburban LTZ than I do in my Focus RS Turbo hatchback and even more secure in my Ford F350 pickup truck and candidly I care little about fuel mileage and more about staying safe and alive with all the idiots on the roads today.

In reality, a sub compact buggy or even a grocery mon wannabe SUV would be destroyed if it hit my truck and I'd most likely drive away. Same deal with the Suburban but certainly not with my Focus. it's a wad of tinfoil with a supercar engine. I don't commute. My business is right here. Walk out the back door, take 15 steps to the machine shop and I'm at work supervising my employees and wife is gainfully retired as well.
2050 This is the 3rd or 4th time you've posted how poor this vehical is and how you don't like it. I'd suggest you start your own thread concerning its poor design AND not buy one. :eek:
 
   / 2022 Bronco sport review #103  
You take a substantial side hit, you'll wish it had a full frame. I feel much more secure in my wife's Suburban LTZ than I do in my Focus RS Turbo hatchback and even more secure in my Ford F350 pickup truck and candidly I care little about fuel mileage and more about staying safe and alive with all the idiots on the roads today.

In reality, a sub compact buggy or even a grocery mon wannabe SUV would be destroyed if it hit my truck and I'd most likely drive away. Same deal with the Suburban but certainly not with my Focus. it's a wad of tinfoil with a supercar engine. I don't commute. My business is right here. Walk out the back door, take 15 steps to the machine shop and I'm at work supervising my employees and wife is gainfully retired as well.
You are talking about two entirely different things. I would much rather be in an Oshkosh M985 than a Suburban or a F350 in an accident. They are vastly different vehicles so the comparison is as silly as a Suburban vs a smaller SUV.

Just like the fact you don't commute doesn't mean anything to people who do. Neither is wrong or better than the other, it is just different. Due to this, different people have different needs, it seems the Bronco Sport fits his needs and that is great. He bought a vehicle that he likes, works perfectly for him, and is a solid choice. Just because it doesn't fit your uses doesn't make it a horrible choice.

Also if you look into it a bit more.

Suburban for 2024
The NHTSA tested two variants of the Chevy Suburban for its standard tests: the two-wheel and four-wheel drive variants. Both variants were rated four out of five stars. Regarding the frontal crash tests by the NHTSA, the overall rating is four out of five stars.


The Bronco Sport
"Safety ratings are excellent, with the government (NHTSA) giving it a perfect five stars for overall, frontal and side crash protection. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety named the 2023 Bronco Sport a Top Safety Pick+ for its best-possible performance in all crash tests and for its crash-prevention tech."

If you want to understand vehicle accidents take a look at two similar-sized vehicles one with Unibody and one full frame. You will learn the Unibody normally keeps the occupants safer in an accident. They have crumple zones designed to absorb the energy from a collision where a framed vehicle often transfers it to the occupants. See the study below:

"Crash fatality risk and unibody versus body-on-frame structure in SUVs​

Eric M Ossiander 1, Thomas D Koepsell 2, Barbara McKnight 3
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Abstract​

Background: In crashes between cars and SUVs, car occupants are more likely to be killed than if they crashed with another car. An increasing proportion of SUVs are built with unibody, rather than truck-like body-on-frame construction. Unibody SUVs are generally lighter, less stiff, and less likely to roll over than body-on-frame SUVs, but whether unibody structure affects risk of death in crashes is unknown.
Objective: To determine whether unibody SUVs differ from body-on-frame SUVs in the danger they pose to occupants of other vehicles and in the self-protection they offer to their own occupants.
Methods: Case-control study of crashes between one compact SUV and one other passenger vehicle in the US during 1995-2008, in which the SUV was model year 1996-2006. Cases were all decedents in fatal crashes, one control was selected from each non-fatal crash.
Findings: Occupants of passenger vehicles that crashed with compact unibody SUVs were at 18% lower risk of death compared to those that crashed with compact body-on-frame SUVs (adjusted odds ratio 0.82 (95% confidence interval 0.73-0.94)). Occupants of compact unibody SUVs were also at lower risk of death compared to occupants of body-on-frame SUVs (0.86 (0.72-1.02)).
Conclusions: In two-vehicle collisions involving compact SUVs, unibody structure was associated with lower risk of death both in occupants of other vehicles in the crash, and in SUVs' own occupants."
 
   / 2022 Bronco sport review #104  
Blah, blah, blah, whatever. You aren't driving the Oshkosh on the E-way at 70 per in traffic anyway so go back to the reality real life. I'd much rather be in a collision in the Suburban or the F350 than a tinfoil, no frame Sport Bronco 2, which is a redressed sheet metal Ford Escape AWD.

I don't really care what anyone drives (again, you ain't driving an Oshkosh on the E-Way at 70 per or faster in traffic anyway) If we were to ever purchase a new Ford Bronco it would be the new full size (full frame) model and we have looked at them before (remember we are a Ford UAW family so we not only get employee pricing, but we get access to Fords production line test vehicles (which is exactly how I bought my loaded diesel F350 btw). Having said that, my wife preferred the 1500 Suburban LTZ, all wheel drive and it's her money, not mine and she bought it, not me and the dealer she bought it from, Allen Chevrolet-GMC in Monroe, Michigan, allowed her the same employee discount that GM employees get plus some extra when she bought it as loaded Burbs today are well in the excess of 100 grand. She even got free service for the life of the vehicle (including GM parts) so long as she owns it and she tells me they have killer doughnuts and coffee in the customer waiting room so it was a done deal and she didn't finance one cent either. Was a CASH deal.

Don't really care about your crash tests or crumple zone crap one bit. Bottom line is, bulk and a full frame always wins out over tinfoil and no frame in a real world crash. Newton proved long ago that a body in motion stays in motion until stopped by an immovable object which in our case is the Burb or the F350 pickup truck, both of which have full ladder frames and the bulk to arrest that motion. Plain and simple.

Sure I also own a Ford Focus RS turbo hatch back and when I drive it, I drive it always aware that it can and will be a coffin if I get hit by another vehicle so when I do drive it, I'm always aware of that fact. I bought it for the fun factor and it's a super car is sheep's clothing and nothing more. It will handily put away a 5.0 Mustang in a drag race any time and the 0 tp whatever speed you want to get to is fantastic, I can top 120+ on any freeway on ramp if I so desire and it's paid for as well. Matter of fact, I paid cash for it as well.

We don't finance anything other than farm equipment and only that because the equipment as well as the finance charges are a 100% business write off. That also applies to my rental properties.

Where we stand and where we will ALWAYS stand. and nothing will ever change that. I don't care what fuel costs, its not material to us one iota and same applies to every component needed for scheduled services. No one touches the Burb but the dealer and same applies to my F350. Only the Ford dealer where I purchased it from, Brondes Ford in Maumee, Ohio services it. I do the service on the Focus myself which is infrequent because I don't motor it much. It's a 'for fun' vehicle.

Your dissertations concerning crash worthiness falls on deaf ears with me. I already know what bulk weight does in a crash. I drove a Michigan 11 axle steel hauler for a private concern for 25 years before retirement and I know that an 11 axle 171 gross (loaded) truck can withstand in any crash concerning PI. I was the safety and compliance officer the last 2 years before retirement and I got to see many accidents and the vehicles that were involved in those crashes always were on the loosing side. All comes back to Newton's law of physics, a body in motion, tends to stay in motion unless arrested by an object of more mass. Your crash test data means little to nothing to me. besides, that isn't real world accidents, those are controlled crash tests in a lavatory, oops, I mean labatory under controlled conditions, none of which apply in the real world.

Have a nice day, I'm done with this thread. I stated my position and it don't change one iota.
 
   / 2022 Bronco sport review #105  
Who is this guy? 5030 you are a legend in your own mind. Everything is not about you.
 
   / 2022 Bronco sport review #107  
All I will say is, WOW...
 
   / 2022 Bronco sport review #108  
While this is true, Arly doesn't strike me as the type to neglect regular maintenance. It'll see those oil changes, no doubt.
Just so long as it ain't the local fast oil change emporium where you have no idea what brand or weight of oil they are installing or even if the change the filter with a good one and most of them never pull the drain plug but suck it out through the dipstick hole and that always leaves some old oil in the bottom of the pan.
 
   / 2022 Bronco sport review #109  
And what really ticks me off around here is that we have stations that cut off the pump after $75. I hate having to run my credit card twice just to fill up my pickup. Gas is now approaching $5 a gallon, if I put 30 gallons in my F150 that's $150!

Been driving my diesel dually a lot lately....
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Since I took the above pic two days ago gasoline has jumped another 9 cents a gallon!
You know who to thank for that. Just remember that on election day, that and the cost of groceries.
 
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Cleaned it up today and found nearly no carpet in it. Dearests says "this thing is soooooo easy to clean". Have liked it more as we use it.
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