Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs?

[npalen]

I remember traveling through the Midwest and seeing many soybean fields being plowed under instead of being harvested.

Why and when were they being "plowed under" instead of being harvested?

 

[jyoutz]

Why and when were they being "plowed under" instead of being harvested?

I said it was during the period when China boycotted the U.S. crop and they bought from Brazil instead. No reason to harvest with no market. Much of the U.S. grain and legume crops are grown for export.

 

[Duds13]

The theory is Mexico will curtail the drug traffic to have the tariffs removed
Mexico is firing back that illegal gun traffic into Mexico from the US is a big problem for them in their attempts to take down drug cartels. They want the US to step up on that issue.

With a competent administration coming in soon that might just happen

 

[bvanek]

Around here, most producers plant hybrid wild radish as cover crops and incorporate them in the spring prior to planting.

clover and alfalfa are the main cover crops/nitrogen fixers in the Willamette Valley and east of the cascades....They get a double shot, clover and alfalfa hay bring big bucks. (usually several cuttings and more leafy after the first cut ) Then they can plant other follow up crops in nitrogen rich soil..(less dependence on chemical fertilizers.) Most large farmers in eastern Oregon just stay in hay but the Valley farmers usually rotate.

 

[arrow]

For sure you’re correct. I was just explaining that it also has a connotation and usage that isn’t negative when referring to SS and Medicare.

Absolutely and thanks for the reminder

 

[WM75Guy]

Our cotton crops in the Texas Panhandle have been plowed under the last 3 years due to lack of rainfall at the appropriate times. Too expensive to harvest for what little return there would be. Covered by crop insurance. It's called farming the mailbox.

 

[bvanek]

Mexico is firing back that illegal gun traffic into Mexico from the US is a big problem for them in their attempts to take down drug cartels. They want the US to step up on that issue.

Likely the cartels are both supply and demand for the guns....Get rid of the cartels and the problem will get addressed at it's source, including deporting the facilitators in the supply chain from the USA.... but will take time given the entrenchment allowed for many years in Mexico and the extremely poor policy in the USA in the last four years.
The open border gives the cartels the sources in the US (including foreign adversaries) If Mexico agrees to enforce their border and close it to illegal immigration both in and out then a serious resolution might happen.....Political posturing just kicks the can. New sheriff coming in, so expect something serious this time at least on the US side.

 

[LouNY]

Our cotton crops in the Texas Panhandle have been plowed under the last 3 years due to lack of rainfall at the appropriate times. Too expensive to harvest for what little return there would be. Covered by crop insurance. It's called farming the mailbox.

Many times they have to calculate the cost of the crop insurance compared to the value of the crop.

 

[5030]

Crop insurance is paid by guess who and IMO, that also needs to get curtailed and I suspect it will.

 

[LouNY]

The grower that desires it is who pays for it, they pay into an insurance fund.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

The grower that desires it is who pays for it, they pay into an insurance fund.

Federal government pays the largest portion

 

[square1]

With a competent administration coming in soon that might just happen

From 2011 - 2016 70% of guns confiscated in Mexico during violent crimes were from the US.

This was the assessment in June 2019:
"It seems like this is an ever-evolving situation and ever-evolving list of asks from both sides," Allen said. "Mexicans are asking Americans to take some steps to stem the flow of weapons over the border -- an ask that's been made by multiple Mexican presidents but has never really come to pass. There's no easy solution, and certainly asking the U.S. to stem the flow of guns from the U.S. to Mexico would be a difficult thing to act on."

Don't hold your breath.

 

[Duds13]

From 2011 - 2016 70% of guns confiscated in Mexico during violent crimes were from the US.

This was the assessment in June 2019:
"It seems like this is an ever-evolving situation and ever-evolving list of asks from both sides," Allen said. "Mexicans are asking Americans to take some steps to stem the flow of weapons over the border -- an ask that's been made by multiple Mexican presidents but has never really come to pass. There's no easy solution, and certainly asking the U.S. to stem the flow of guns from the U.S. to Mexico would be a difficult thing to act on."

Don't hold your breath.

I guess all these gun laws a certain side prefers doesn't really prevent criminal activity

 

[square1]

I guess all these gun laws a certain side prefers doesn't really prevent criminal activity

Toothless US gun laws have no bearing on Mexican drug cartels being better armed than Mexican law enforcement. Which is, per Mexican government an ongoing and unaddressed problem over several US and Mexican administrations, the problem with stemming the flow of drugs from Mexico to the US.
Tariff's won't fix this problem.

 

[Duds13]

Toothless US gun laws have no bearing on Mexican drug cartels being better armed than Mexican law enforcement. Which is, per Mexican government is an ongoing and unaddressed problem over several US and Mexican administrations, the problem with stemming the flow of drugs from Mexico to the US.
Tariff's won't fix this problem.

My point was the guns crossing into Mexico from the US are most likely illegal. A certain party thinks more laws will get illegal guns off the streets. You brought up the gun issue

 

[square1]

You brought up the gun issue

No, the Mexican government brought up the gun issue in response to the tariffs threat. I just passed it along because it continues to be overlooked everywhere, including this thread by tariffs supporters who think they have miraculously found the simple answer to drugs & illegal immigration.

 

[Rdrcr]

This thread is HIGHLY entertaining!
I very much enjoy the back and forth.

Mike

 

[LouNY]

No, the Mexican government brought up the gun issue in response to the tariffs threat. I just passed it along because it continues to be overlooked everywhere, including this thread by tariffs supporters who think they have miraculously found the simple answer to drugs & illegal immigration.

Bull crap, overlooked???? certain people and parties have been trying to restrict a RIGHT that is not restrictable for many decades just nibbling and chewing constantly.
Then noise is made about "compromise" compromise my a*s we have been compromising our rights since 1932 by an over bearing government which continues to get more over bearing every day.

 

[jyoutz]

Bull crap, overlooked???? certain people and parties have been trying to restrict a RIGHT that is not restrictable for many decades just nibbling and chewing constantly.
Then noise is made about "compromise" compromise my a*s we have been compromising our rights since 1932 by an over bearing government which continues to get more over bearing every day.

I have to ask how the cartels are getting fully automatic firearms. These are not things that we just go and buy at our local gun stores.

 

[rScotty]

Back to tariffs, politicians are far better at talking than doing - for which we should be thankful.