Who still drives a stick in 2025?

   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #111  
My current 2013 Outback is a 6 speed. Some guy ordered it and then cancelled the order, leaving the Subaru dealership stuck with it since manual Outback's didn't sell well, even back then. They were glad to see me; I was glad to find it.

Wanted a 6speed 1999 F250 and had to order it. Nobody stocked those either. And manual F150s back then only had some ridiculously low tow capacity- maybe 2000 lbs, IIRC. They musta had plastic gears!
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #112  
That's a lot of fuel to be lugging around.
Not really. OTR tractors that travel long distances usually come equipped with large fuel tanks as standard equipment and the one I own started life as a long distance tractor and like I stated previously, even though the outfit I retired from, none of us drove long distance over the road, the owner always bought and spec'd the tractors as long distance, over the road units simply because they are much easier to resell once they came out of the fleet and they were always in demand because of the way they were ordered plus the company owned the dealerships and all the units were carefully maintained by factory certified and trained mechanics.

I never had to be concerned with any issues. If I wrote up my unit on a PTI (Pre trip inspection), when I got back to the yard, it was immediately addressed and corrected and if it was an issue that needed immediate repairs on, I took a spare unit out while mine was being repaired. In my entire driving career with them, I was never subjected to a roadside vehicle inspection simply because the state and Federal DOT knew the units were always top notch. In fact, one of the safety and compliance officers the company employed was a retired DOT officer. Always good to have the right people on the payroll and the owner (who I know and associate with to this day), knew what it took to 'fly under the radar', which is pretty common in the trucking industry, especially in the specialized hauling industry we were employed in. To this day, I see our units all over the country being operated by other companies that bought them from us when they came out of the fleet and I also own one myself.

Buying anything used usually comes with a level of consternation, but not so with the trucks we drove because of the level of care they received.

I bought the tractor I drove for them when it came out of fleet service at 750K miles and prior to my buying it, I had Tom, who was the service manager and who I hunt with presently (and a close friend) turn it up for me. Mechanically injected Caterpillar's are fairly easy to turn up so long as you know what you are doing and Tom is and was always a master at doing that. When it came out of fleet, the owner knew I was going to buy it and I got a price that was fantastic and I paid cash for it as well. I've owned it for over 13 years now and other than normal maintenance, I've had zero issues with it and it's a classic long nose Star as well. I don't maintain it myself, I still have the dealership that they no longer own but the mechanics are still there, do the routine maintenance on it and I still get 'employee pricing' on that plus I buy quite a bit of stuff from their parts department like starting batteries and fuel additives, all at my employee discount, which is 10% over their cost.

Dealing with and being friends with the right people has it's rewards...
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #113  
I keep emphasizing modern automatics. Like less than 10 years old, unless it's an Allison.
Ford and Dodge continued to try to beef up 4/5 speed car automatics, which were pretty bad (E4OD, 4R100, etc)
I’m pretty sure Dodge, Chrysler and Ram are all or mostly 8 speeds. My 2017 F150 is a six speed and I think they are all 10 speeds now. And please don’t ask 5030’s opinion on Ford 10 speeds.
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #114  
1993 F350 460 CID V8 with a ZF 5 speed stick. Very smooth transmission.
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #115  
My good friend and hunting buddy Tom, now has and manages a fleet of 50 road tractors leased to Fed-Ex and all his road tractors also have large fuel tanks, long wheelbases and are spec'd to OO specs. That makes his tractors easy to turn over when it's time but he turns his at a million miles simply because they are all run with team drivers running coast to coast and he can rack up a million miles pretty quick. I have no idea what he makes on them profit wise and I don't ask but I do know he pays his drivers well and provides excellent healthcare for them and has no turnover in drivers, which is abnormal in today's trucking industry. I believe his drivers gross over 100K a year. He also has a company (his company not Fed-EX) based 401 and he contributes to it as well. Tom is much like the owner I worked for. Same philosophy, same ethic.
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #116  
Not really. OTR tractors that travel long distances usually come equipped with large fuel tanks as standard equipment and the one I own started life as a long distance tractor and like I stated previously, even though the outfit I retired from, none of us drove long distance over the road, the owner always bought and spec'd the tractors as long distance, over the road units simply because they are much easier to resell once they came out of the fleet and they were always in demand because of the way they were ordered plus the company owned the dealerships and all the units were carefully maintained by factory certified and trained mechanics.

I never had to be concerned with any issues. If I wrote up my unit on a PTI (Pre trip inspection), when I got back to the yard, it was immediately addressed and corrected and if it was an issue that needed immediate repairs on, I took a spare unit out while mine was being repaired. In my entire driving career with them, I was never subjected to a roadside vehicle inspection simply because the state and Federal DOT knew the units were always top notch. In fact, one of the safety and compliance officers the company employed was a retired DOT officer. Always good to have the right people on the payroll and the owner (who I know and associate with to this day), knew what it took to 'fly under the radar', which is pretty common in the trucking industry, especially in the specialized hauling industry we were employed in. To this day, I see our units all over the country being operated by other companies that bought them from us when they came out of the fleet and I also own one myself.

Buying anything used usually comes with a level of consternation, but not so with the trucks we drove because of the level of care they received.

I bought the tractor I drove for them when it came out of fleet service at 750K miles and prior to my buying it, I had Tom, who was the service manager and who I hunt with presently (and a close friend) turn it up for me. Mechanically injected Caterpillar's are fairly easy to turn up so long as you know what you are doing and Tom is and was always a master at doing that. When it came out of fleet, the owner knew I was going to buy it and I got a price that was fantastic and I paid cash for it as well. I've owned it for over 13 years now and other than normal maintenance, I've had zero issues with it and it's a classic long nose Star as well. I don't maintain it myself, I still have the dealership that they no longer own but the mechanics are still there, do the routine maintenance on it and I still get 'employee pricing' on that plus I buy quite a bit of stuff from their parts department like starting batteries and fuel additives, all at my employee discount, which is 10% over their cost.

Dealing with and being friends with the right people has it's rewards...
"twin 1220 gallon polished tanks,"

So you carried 2,440 gallons of fuel?
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #117  
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #118  
Wow, that is almost 1/2 of what the average Locomotive carries on board.
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #119  
"twin 1220 gallon polished tanks,"

So you carried 2,440 gallons of fuel?
As usual I fat fingered the comment. I meant 120 gallon tanks, but then I also suspect you knew that. Being 74, I sometimes need some slack.

In reality, twin 120's are median sized tanks. Some of the trucks in the fleet had twin 150's.
 
   / Who still drives a stick in 2025? #120  

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