New Tractor for buyer new to tractors

   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors #21  
I’ll add I had a BX for 10 years, the JD2025r is roughly the size of the B sized Kubota you are looking at. The BX is a solid little tractor, I liked mine. The negative is small tires and a very small end loader bucket. For your use the bigger Kubota is a no brainer.
 
   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors #22  
   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors #23  
I thought BC was all MKS

Shouldn't those acres be hectares?

;-)

eta

Get the B-01, skip the cab, You need the air and sunshine!
Get a box blade, and a scrape blade, and a flail mower. $$$$
oh! don't forget the carry all.

As a self test, write down the four things you NEED to have a back hoe to do.
If the value adds to MORE than the cost, buy one. If less, RENT!
Fresh air is nice when just doing simple things, but get into mowing or other dusty environments or too hot or too cold situation and you will love a cab.

Capability wise, yes a B can do most things but not all things. My last machine, a John Deere 2320, was about the same size and capability as a B. It did most things just fine, but there were jobs I couldn’t tackle or chose not too because the tractor was limiting.
 
   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors #24  
I think there's a tendency to go smaller, especially for new buyers. Smaller tractors are fine but their limits are encountered sooner, for example, FEL capacity. Less capacity translates into more time for a given task, while some tasks will just not be possible with a smaller machine. I recommend buying the most HP you can afford, this will support larger implements and faster task times, plus you can always use smaller implements if required. Based on your description I'd be looking in the 40-60HP range. Think carefully about extras, beyond a FEL of course. Sure a cab is nice but it adds considerably to the purchase price and in some situations, it can be a liability (e.g. trail maintenance). I didn't see from your description the need for a backhoe, for a small number of projects renting a mini-ex might be a better strategy.

Kubota will generally finance implements with a new tractor purchase, which is pretty convenient. However one can sometimes find good deals by monitoring FB Marketplace or Craigslist for used equipment, to me this makes a lot of sense for implements that only receive occasional use
 
   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors #25  
here's something for you to look at:




willy
 
   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors #26  
What is the import rules/taxes? Can you drive a day to get a machine in US, and cross back over without paying some kinda import tax? Does a used older, cheaper machine, avoid those rules?
 
   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors #27  
1970 and back if you purchased a Mercedes Benz new and drove it
around europe an put over 30,000 miles on it no import tax it was used.
Back then you could up the price of a new Benz in the states go to
Germany pay cash for the car put the miles on the car and come back to
the states and still have some money. A 1967 VW bug cost new
$1325.00 and shipping $125.00. Here in states price of 1967 VW bug
new $2495.00+
Also if you live in a different country for 3 years all the stuff we were
carring no inport tax and wife had her mink coat and a whole lot of
clothes boots shoes etc that we purchased on our way home.

willy
 
   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors #28  
Hello,

I have a 10 acre parcel in coastal BC with about 1/2 the acreage cleared. The 5 cleared acres quickly overgrows with brambles (blackberries), broom, and heavy grass. The land is undulating and gently sloped. There is almost no flat "lawn". My needs are primarily for brush and heavy grass cutting, fence mending, light tree clearing, light to medium landscaping, driveway maintenance, and general property upkeep. I outsource heavy logging or serious excavator work to locals with skills and equipment. Our local tractor dealer is Kubota. Current post Covid prices in Canadian dollars with Canadian taxes are horrifying. I am weighing a BX23S tractor loader backhoe plus brush hog VS a B2601HSD with loader backhoe and brush hog. The bigger machine with the extras listed is over $60,000 Canadian with taxes. The BX23S is a chunk less. Any advice or wisdom considering acreage and stated needs? Other than helping on a farm as a teenager I have no serious tractor maintenance skills (I do know how to use a grease gun)
Thanks
The "go big" vs "go small" argument always seems to be a central issue whenever someone asks advice. Some of this depends on the kind of work you want to do: you aren't going to be doing heavy duty logging with either choice you mentioned, but you also mentioned you'll be contracting out such heavier work. (However, I've seen some pretty impressive work done with an ATV, and those tractors will certainly pull more.)

A lot of this is personal preference: what is your budget, and what is your personal trade-off between spending more money (larger equipment) or more time (making more passes with smaller equipment).

I own 144 acres and manage it with a 2001, 33 HP New Holland TC33D. I brush hog several acres an several miles of trails on my own property, and grade a 1/4 mile gravel driveway. I also do some trail maintenance and mowing on another 115 acres of conserved working forest which is cooperatively owned with 15 other families in the area. However, is set up for small-scale forest management: I have a 3 pt hitch logging winch for the back, a forestry grapple for the loader, belly pan & limb risers, and a forwarding trailer (hydraulic, self loading).

For the logging work I probably should have the next frame size up and a 40-50 HP tractor. However, my current tractor can get in to places I could not with a larger tractor, so there is a trade-off. If I were starting over, I'd probably have gone up to that size, but what I have works, I just have to do my work in smaller bites.

With 10 acres, for the work you describe, between the two you mentioned, I'd be going with the B2601. The BX23 is a nice subcompact, but I suspect you'll outgrow fairly quickly. The small tires and lower ground clearance can be an issue. An L2502 or an L3302 might be a nice option, but I'm guessing they are a lot more $$.

For the uses you describe, anything larger sure seems like overkill to me. However, that's just my own personal trade off between $$ and time spent on a 10 acre property.

I agree with others who recommended just renting a mini excavator when needed. I bought a used backhoe (and a new subframe) for my tractor. I used it off an on initially, but just don't have much ongoing use for it. It sits gathering rust now. If you see an ongoing regular need, it might be worth considering, otherwise just save the money.
 
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   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors #29  
If planning on getting a loader/ loader grapple combo you are going to be seriously disappointed with the lift capacity of the bx. You might not think you need a grapple but you need a grapple :ROFLMAO:
 
   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors #30  
Horse power and a good brush hog. My first tractor was too small. I over worked it and when I finally moved up it was hard to believe the difference. Deere 4310 with fel and a 5 foot has cleared all I’ve needed. I have rented a mini ex 3 times in 15 years. I own a grapple and I recommend one. Good luck. Searching is part of the fun.
 
   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors #31  
My wife and I have about 8 acres in Hilly West Virginia. About 3 acres are level and the rest is steep hills and hardwoods with lots of multi-flora rose and blackberries. When we bought this place in 2005, we bought a B7610 Kubota with a mid mount mower, a read blade, a FEL, filled rear tires, and a brush hog. After mowing the overgrown 4 ft. high fields with the mid mount mower set on high the first time (and raking after), I just used the mid-mount mower and never really used the brush hog. I sold it. I use a Stihl brush cutter on some of the multi-flora rose until I get tired, then wait until later. If I can get to it with mid mount mower, I cut it with that. I cut about 2 - 3 cords of wood a year up a very steep old logging road. I bring wood down in the FEL (mower deck is still on to offset weight) and/or a 1,400 lb. Polar single axle utility cart (one of the best purchases that I ever made).

I have never needed anything more than this tractor. It sips gas, is easy to maintain, and with 25 HP, it doesn't need the diesel emissions stuff. I do maintenance regularly. Just replaced the mower belt, last fall after 18 years and a lot of mowing. I agree with John_MC. Why pay for excess capacity in a tractor? Now if you plan on buying adjacent land or have some other use, then that's a different story. Good luck with whatever you decide.
 
   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors #32  
OP: hire out the initial heavy clearing/excavation, then look at your future "needs" (sometimes called wants), then decide on tractor size. then up one more size after you decide which model.
 
   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors
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#33  
Thanks for advice and sorry for delayed reply. Was sidelined for a while but back to tractor shopping again now.
 
   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors #34  
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   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors #36  
How new of a machine would require you to pay a tax on the import? Could you buy a lightly used, 10 year old machine in Washington say, for $16k US/22,260CD? I don't really know anything about Canada, but I believe Mexico, vehicles over 10 years old aren't/weren't subject to the import tax?
 
   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors #37  
I’m not telling you to buy a bigger tractor. Sharing in case you’re worried about it. I bought an L6060 5 years ago and thought it was going to be way too big. Fast forward 4 years and I upgraded to a 5115M, which I thought was going to be way too big. It’s not. I love it.
 
   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors #38  
I just looked at the LX2610 a couple of others recommended. That does look like a nice choice in this size range. I se they also have an LX 2620 out. Not sure what the difference is.
 
   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors #39  
I just looked at the LX2610 a couple of others recommended. That does look like a nice choice in this size range. I se they also have an LX 2620 out. Not sure what the difference is.
Have you considered the L2502?
 
   / New Tractor for buyer new to tractors #40  
Bx is to small
Backhoe is wasted money
Buy a grapple and add a third function, you will use that 100x more than a backhoe
My suggestions would be
2032/2038r Deere
L3302/lx3520 or. 2601 Kubota. All nice machines, I almost recently bought the lx3520 but I went with 2038r. I really liked the 3901, but hated the loader position.....found it stupid.
Kioti cs or ck series
Or
Tym 2515

Good luck. Fill those tires, use ballast.

Your are gonna need a grapple, best implement ever for brush and tree moving

Skip grass cutting and buy a small tractor or zero turn
 

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