How Hard to De-Green a Kubota MX5200?

[Suburban Plowboy]

They barely move since I had them filled with beet juice.

 

[5030]

I feel hydrostat is the way to go for loader work. I only have power shuttle to compare it to, but I would take hydrostat over the power shuttle.

Your opinion and for your use probably an accurate comment but for others, maybe not. Not everyone (me) wants a hydrostat. Hydrostats are inherently inefficient, have a lot of power loss and are complex and require expensive repairs if they fail. In my situation, a hydraulic shuttle and gear drive transmission is a much more efficient transmission of power and the hydraulically actualted wet clutch in the main transmission is not only much more efficient in power transmission but for loader work for me, it's ideal because of the instant forward and reverse motion activation as well as the hydraulic modulation of the wet pack itself. Hydraulic modulation if the wet pack means no abrupt direction changes (lock up is predicated entirely on loading, plus it's extremely long lasting and don't requite the complexity of an HST unit.

While that may not be your 'cup of tea', for me, it is. No 2 owners are alike. I will say that after 5000 hours of heavy loader work (moving and loading round bales, digging holes and moving materials around), I've never had to adjust the wet pack and I checked not only the lock up pressure last year bit the clutch plate wear and everything is within specification, according to the Kubota shop manual.

The biggest thing for me is the efficient power transmission and the simplistic components in the drivetrain as well as the basically no maintenance aspect of it.

 

[Suburban Plowboy]

I don't think I've driven a geared tractor since the Eighties, and just barely then. Is it really possible to use one for backing up and going forward hundreds of times a day without losing your mind?

I like that hydrostatic transmission. Push pedal down in front, go forward. Push pedal down in back, go backward. I only use the clutch to start the tractor and change ranges.

I don't know too much about brakes. I have been using my tractor since 2017, and I have never used mine.

 

[5030]

Is it really possible to use one for backing up and going forward hundreds of times a day without losing your mind?

What a hydraulic shuttle is for. Read up on them. Flick of the left hand. Same as a Deere Power Reverser

I use my brakes when roading with a heavy implement on the back..

 

[Suburban Plowboy]

Maybe you're the wrong guy to ask, but if a shuttle is easy to use, what is the purpose of HST?

 

[jyoutz]

Maybe you're the wrong guy to ask, but if a shuttle is easy to use, what is the purpose of HST?

HST allows you to infinitely control ground speed without changing engine RPMs. Something that’s really nice for pto work such as cutting or tilling.

 

[Balazar]

These are all very good points I had never really thought about power shuttle in the context of efficiency of power transmission. Power shuttle is not available on any models that I know of in the size/HP range the OP is looking at. I think the only two options are shuttle shift and hydrostat. I could be wrong. I know for TYM, the only models that have power shuttle are in the larger utility tractor lineup. The OP wants a simple tractor with less things to go wrong, power shuttle may have that advantage over hydrostat too.

 

[gsganzer]

Does anyone know if similar models sold overseas have the same NOx and particulate equipment?

I believe most diesel over-the-road vehicles have them, but not sure about off-road equipment.

 

[Bavarian]

To go back to your initial post. I paid 2500 Loonies to make the ECM to forget it's "attachment". I did the hardware myself.

I'm running a power shuttle and wouldn't want anything else.
Hydrostats are for lawn mowers.

 

[Suburban Plowboy]

I don't know the difference between power shuttle and shuttle shift. Looking it up.