Whatever you feel like thread.

[CH4Ohio]

You just turn the steering wheel, instead of pushing/pulling lap bars. The steering wheel is linked to the front wheels and also provides inputs to hydro-motors on each wheel identical to your lap bar machine. Actually has more positive control since the front wheels can't wander. Don't see why that seems so difficult . . .

And none of these machines are "zero steer". Seems like that was an unfortunate typo when this thread was created. They're all "zero turn" but some have lap bars and some have steering wheels. Right?

 

[CH4Ohio]

And none of these machines are "zero steer". Seems like that was an unfortunate typo when this thread was created. They're all "zero turn" but some have lap bars and some have steering wheels. Right?

Plus the Country Cutter had a joystick control as I recall.

 

[WinterDeere]

You just turn the steering wheel, instead of pushing/pulling lap bars. The steering wheel is linked to the front wheels and also provides inputs to hydro-motors on each rear wheel identical to your lap bar machine. Actually has more positive control since the front wheels can't wander. Don't see why that seems so difficult . . .

Does it reverse like a bumper car, when you turn the wheel over hard?

I guess the real level of difficulty is going to depend on getting the steering ratio high enough for quick maneuverability while still low enough to have very fine control for running near obstacles without bumping them. I just can't imagine this not compromising at one end or the other of this maneuverable / fine control spectrum, without two long-throw levers. But I will admit, I've only ever driven standard lever-control zero turns, never a zero steer.

And none of these machines are "zero steer". Seems like that was an unfortunate typo when this thread was created. They're all "zero turn" but some have lap bars and some have steering wheels. Right?

Not a typo. Zero Turn Radius (ZTR) mowers have been around for decades, with two control levers. So when someone came up with the idea of accomplishing the same skidsteer type control via steering wheel, they wanted to give it a unique name to identify and distinguish it from the rest. That name was Zero Steer.

The thread is appropriately named.

 

[CH4Ohio]

Does it reverse like a bumper car, when you turn the wheel over hard?

I guess the real level of difficulty is going to depend on getting the steering ratio high enough for quick maneuverability while still low enough to have very fine control for running near obstacles without bumping them. I just can't imagine this not compromising at one end or the other of this maneuverable / fine control spectrum, without two long-throw levers. But I will admit, I've only ever driven standard lever-control zero turns, never a zero steer.


Not a typo. Zero Turn Radius (ZTR) mowers have been around for decades, with two control levers. So when someone came up with the idea of accomplishing the same skidsteer type control via steering wheel, they wanted to give it a unique name to identify and distinguish it from the rest. That name was Zero Steer.

The thread is appropriately named.

Sorry. I left out the foot pedals.

The steering wheel controls your direction. There’s a forward and reverse pedal. Pretty much like your hydrostatic tractor. The harder you push the pedal the faster you go. Super simple.

Is that what’s causing the confusion?

 

[CH4Ohio]

Does it reverse like a bumper car, when you turn the wheel over hard?

I guess the real level of difficulty is going to depend on getting the steering ratio high enough for quick maneuverability while still low enough to have very fine control for running near obstacles without bumping them. I just can't imagine this not compromising at one end or the other of this maneuverable / fine control spectrum, without two long-throw levers. But I will admit, I've only ever driven standard lever-control zero turns, never a zero steer.


Not a typo. Zero Turn Radius (ZTR) mowers have been around for decades, with two control levers. So when someone came up with the idea of accomplishing the same skidsteer type control via steering wheel, they wanted to give it a unique name to identify and distinguish it from the rest. That name was Zero Steer.

The thread is appropriately named.

What brand uses the “zero steer” terminology? Still confused by that. They’re all still referred to as “zero turn” regardless of how they are turned.

 

[MossRoad]

 

[WinterDeere]

Sorry. I left out the foot pedals.

The steering wheel controls your direction. There’s a forward and reverse pedal. Pretty much like your hydrostatic tractor. The harder you push the pedal the faster you go. Super simple.

Is that what’s causing the confusion?

Yes, that was it.

What brand uses the “zero steer” terminology? Still confused by that. They’re all still referred to as “zero turn” regardless of how they are turned.

Google is your friend. Just search "zero turn vs. zero steer", and you'll have enough reading for a few evenings!

 

[Tinhack]

Yes, that was it.


Google is your friend. Just search "zero turn vs. zero steer", and you'll have enough reading for a few evenings!

Zero Steer is an oxymoron. The Cub Cadet Zero Steer comes with a steering wheel. The term seems to be more sales oriented than factual.

 

[Grumpycat]

Plus the Country Cutter had a joystick control as I recall.

Country Clipper. I like my joystick steer.

 

[Shenandoah MF1760]

HOA? In the Piney Woods? You must be on the lake.

We're about an hour north of Tyler. We barely have codes for building. My HOA is my wife, haha.

Our Greenworks Twin motor push mower just died. It was going to cost more for the replacement motor than to buy the exact same mower new. Smh

I got my Honda tuned up for much less. It will handle the small area near the house. Everything else is natural or gets knocked down a few times a year by the flail.

We have a couple of spots totaling 37 acres in the Piney Woods one of which we're building on and where the tractor resides.

The HOA in the post is in Galveston County just south of Houston. I'd like to get rid of that house but the kids are still infesting it.