F550?

   / F550? #52  
A farmer is the only business man that buys retail, sells wholesale and pays the freight both ways....J.F.K. ~1960.
Yet some people whine because they get a 50% discount on my farm truck plates.
 
   / F550? #53  
I'm not planning on getting a CDL at this point, and a F650 is a noticeably larger footprint than a 550. My budget will be around $10k. I put about 5,000 miles a year on my 350. When I replace my current daily driver, I expect to decrease the mileage on the truck by quite a bit. There are some hills around here that I would drive through, but they are full of 35mh curves. So, while I am actually concerned that a 7.3L PSD is gong to be a little on the week side for the job, I'm more concerned about being able to go down hill SLOWLY than uphill quickly. :) For 40-45 miles each way, if it takes me an extra 15 min each way to make the trip its not a big deal.

As mentioned, this really isn't going to be for business use. Its primary use will be transporting logs for firewood, and hauling equipment (tractor and loader) to and from the farm to either load logs, mow pasture and lanes, or do some other kind of work on that property. Occasionally it may get used to haul equipment and volunteers to disaster sites. All told, it will likely get used 8-10 times per year. Anything else is just going to be an opportunity to start it up and let it run so that its not just sitting there. If it weren't for the fact that the F550s I'm finding are in the same price range as a 250 and 350, and are often in slightly better condition because some punk hasn't tried to hot rod it (yet), I wouldn't even consider anything bigger than what I already have. I have no expectation of being able to replace my current salary with it. If it does a couple of jobs a year to pay for part of its insurance and plates, great. If I can step away from this rat race in a few years, it may be useful for generating some supplemental income. My life style doesn't require a vehicle this size, but it does occasionally require something bigger than a 1/2 ton. If I'm spending pretty close to the same money either way, I THINK (but could be wrong) that it makes more sense to spend the money on the bigger vehicle because it allows me to complete my work in fewer trips and with less physical effort on my part. Much easier (and faster) to dump logs from a dump bed than to climb on and off a tractor/loader to hook up and skid them off a trailer 1 or 2 at a time, and much easier and faster to load them with a loader than winching them onto the trailer one at a time so long as I can tow the tractor/loader back home on the same trip. If I could upgrade the payload of a 450 dump truck to handle 10k and still pull a 10k or 14k trailer, that would be even better. Problem is that even if I could upgrade a 450, by the time I do, I would be money ahead to just start with the 550.

As I start phasing out of my day job eventually, if it looks like transporting material a few days a week would be worth the investment, I'd be open to getting a CDL (if I had not yet already), and consider upgrading to a 650 with a CAT or Cummins depending on what kind of work is available at the time. Or I may decide that the increased cost of the plates, insurance, and tires just isn't worth it and go back to a 1 ton. Either way, before I started digging too deep on the subject, I thought it might be best to check with folks who actually use trucks of various sizes to accomplish work in a pretty regular basis and make sure I hadn't missed something important, and see if my thinking was off in left field or not.

I’ve put that much on the bed and it handled fine but 10k is more than my dads F-550 can legally haul on the bed. I’ve never actually unhooked the truck and weighed it by itself but it’s somewhere around 11,000-11,500. It’s 15,800 with a dump trailer at the landfill scales. If you had a regular cab 2wd you could probably hit the 10k mark with a 550 but a 450 GVW is only like 16,500. You’ll never get the truck down to 6500 even more so with the 4 door you want.
 
   / F550? #54  
Yet some people whine because they get a 50% discount on my farm truck plates.

I’m not blaming you because I have the same plates on my trucks but you’ve stated numerous times that you’re doing property maintenance for hire. That’s commercial work not farming.
 
   / F550? #55  
Explain to me exactly WHY farmers are ENTITLED to plates that allow them to circumvent pretty much EVERY requirement but a guy who owns and operates a small construction company is not? I'm not against them, but the idea of someone getting their panties in a bunch because they don't like they fact that someone else was given the same brakes they did, well that tends to rub me the wrong way. If the state is willing to give a person a farm plate for a vehicle, good for that person. The only reason for me to get upset about it is because I don't think that person is paying their fair share and the solution to that is to do away with farm plates all together. I don't think anyone wants that except maybe the government who's collecting the fees.
Farm trucks are typically only used for short periods of time at harvest. Lots of shipping terminals won't even take truck deliveries. It's rail car or nothing.
 
   / F550? #56  
I’m not blaming you because I have the same plates on my trucks but you’ve stated numerous times that you’re doing property maintenance for hire. That’s commercial work not farming.
And for that exact reason, I have not purchased farm plates for the vehicles involved in that business. Neither my Ram 5500 or my International 7500 have farm plates.
 
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