Anyone live near a windfarm?

[bdhsfz6]

We could argue all day about the TMI effects. I think the studies that show cancer increases have cherry picked the data. As I recall, one of the studies that showed the largest impact used data that showed cancer increased upwind of the plant, not downwind.

However, nuclear plants don't need to be located near population centers any more than wind farms and solar installations, which tend to be in the middle of nowhere. With high voltage transmission lines, you have to be hundreds of miles away before losses become a concern.

This is true but transmission lines are expensive to build & maintain. Power companies always try to put plants closest to the load. Otherwise, they would all be located in the desert somewhere.

Wind and solar installations have a far smaller output than a nuke. and they generally locate them near existing transmission lines. The issues aren't the same.

Yes, we could argue the issue forever but the question is, do you want a nuke in your neighborhood?

We do agree on one point. Nukes COULD be located away from cities. The trick is to force power companies to do it.

 

[KennyG]

Yes, we could argue the issue forever but the question is, do you want a nuke in your neighborhood?

I'm 5 miles from one nuclear plant, 20 miles from another. Pretty happy with the location.

 

[KennyG]

Palo Verde is also supplemented by ground water. And that waste water could be used for landscape irrigation; instead more freshwater is used. A closed system would be the way to go; there must be a reason why that plant wasn’t designed for that.

The best info I can find says that Palo Verde uses less than 5% groundwater. When the plant construction started 50 years ago (design started 60 years ago), nobody wanted the Phoenix wastewater. Things would probably be done differently today.

 

[jyoutz]

I'm 5 miles from one nuclear plant, 20 miles from another. Pretty happy with the location.

Try to build a new nuclear plant and there will be NIMBYs blocking it.

 

[oldnslo]

Try to build a new nuclear plant and there will be NIMBYs blocking it.

And those same NIMBY’s would probably block wind mills, solar panels, any other form power generation.

 

[jyoutz]

And those same NIMBY’s would probably block wind mills, solar panels, any other form power generation.

True, but they really get wound up about nuclear.

 

[Eagle1]

True, but they really get wound up about nuclear.

I nothing would be worse to me then a wind farm on the ridge tops around here. Nuke would be down lower near water and all but disappear from sight in these here hills.
I live in my paradise but if the ever do put up windmills. I'll find a way to move to some place they are not.

 

[ericm979]

Gs
I am not saying that NG isn’t safe. Just wonder why there has been discussions and push about making gas stoves illegal but then promoting NG as safe resource for generator plants. Seems like a huge contradiction to me. Granted stove top or oven does not exhaust outside like gen plant.

The problem with gas stoves is that the combustion products just go into the home's air. To make it worse, the burners are open flame which is the least efficient and most polluting way to burn gas.

Power plants being large can much more economically install pollution control equipment than putting it on every stove. There are big economies of scale for that stuff. Burning gas in a power plant to run an electric stove top of some kind not only keeps the pollutants out of the home, there's less pollution generated for the same amount of cooking.

There's plenty of studies on how gas stoves pollute indoor air- they emit stuff like nitrogen dioxide and PM2.5. I used to not think they were a problem because my cheap air quality meter didn't show it. But my meter is very limited and there's so many studies from reputable sources that show otherwise.

 

[bdhsfz6]

I'm 5 miles from one nuclear plant, 20 miles from another. Pretty happy with the location.

I'm glad your comfortable with your location and I sincerely hope you never have to experience a TMI like incident.

 

[dodge man]

Let’s face it, the human species is very selfish. Most animal species are, we’re just intelligent enough to know it. Everyone thinks they know the best way to make electricity but they all have some type of environmental drawbacks.