Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days!

[3930dave]

Rolls is BMW owned, Bentley is VW owned. Most likely they both use ZF automatics.

Sounds probable, today.

Rgds, D.

 

[Renze]

Surprised CAT didn't work more with Ford before the "PowerStrokes". The Ford 7xxx and 8xxx used CAT 3208 and 3208T for decades.

3208 was a 10.5 liter lump, a bit heavy for a 3/4 ton pickup. Though 3126 does nice too. Rich Bosch built one from a schoolbud in an F350. But still, he upgraded the axles because its such a heavy driveline.

 

[JasperFrank]

Same with International Harvester.

Brother had an IH Scout, and he loved it. But he used it, and often would run it on saltwater beaches, beach fishing. The Sister-in-Law asked if I could restore it as a birthday present. She wanted to pay all costs. I looked at it, and had to say no way. There's nothing left of this vehicle: Its just rust. All the hard points were gone. Every thing was gone, and I didn't even understand why my brother still ran with it. But he loved that thing.

 

[RobertN]

3208 was a 10.5 liter lump, a bit heavy for a 3/4 ton pickup. Though 3126 does nice too. Rich Bosch built one from a schoolbud in an F350. But still, he upgraded the axles because its such a heavy driveline.

It (CAT 3208) was a large engine physically. But my point is CAT had a long working relation with Ford; they easily could have designed an engine for a pickup.

 

[4570Man]

It (CAT 3208) was a large engine physically. But my point is CAT had a long working relation with Ford; they easily could have designed an engine for a pickup.

So did Cummins. Cummins powered medium and heavy duty Fords for decades. They also had an international DT360 that was very similar to a 5.9 Cummins. The stock DT360 power output was sad but that was more for reliability and fuel efficiency. That engine is every bit as strong if not more so than a Cummins. It could have made considerably more power than it was making in medium duty applications.

 

[Hay Dude]

It (CAT 3208) was a large engine physically. But my point is CAT had a long working relation with Ford; they easily could have designed an engine for a pickup.

I remember the dark days for Ford in the 80’s/90’s when Ford medium duty trucks ran 8.2L GM “fuel pincher” diesel engines and GM/Allison automatic transmissions.
A Ford truck with a GM drivetrain.

 

[4570Man]

I remember the dark days for Ford in the 80’s/90’s when Ford medium duty trucks ran 8.2L GM “fuel pincher” diesel engines and GM/Allison automatic transmissions.
A Ford truck with a GM drivetrain.

That was obviously the cheap option. Ford also ran Cummins class 8 truck engines or 3406 Cats.

 

[jjeff]

Didn't gm engineers initially try to convert a few of there small block gas engines like the 5.7 over to be a diesel with terrible results? In the
Early 80s I think.

 

[Hay Dude]

That was obviously the cheap option. Ford also ran Cummins class 8 truck engines or 3406 Cats.

yes, it was. Ford sold quite a few of them

 

[tulenutn2o]

Didn't gm engineers initially try to convert a few of there small block gas engines like the 5.7 over to be a diesel with terrible results? In the
Early 80s I think.

Yes, they did. Olds comes to mind. Glad they did that as the block makes a killer base for big inch small block gas engine.