Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days!

[jjeff]

Yes, they did. Olds comes to mind. Glad they did that as the block makes a killer base for big inch small block gas engine.

The 350 in gas form is one of my favorite v8 engines. Small block anyway

 

[not2old]

Didn't gm engineers initially try to convert a few of there small block gas engines like the 5.7 over to be a diesel with terrible results? In the
Early 80s I think.

I bought an Eldorado with one of those motors. I got it really cheap as they had a bad reputation and this one had a blown head gasket. It lasted a year before it blew again so I swapped in a 350 Oldsmobile motor. I actually sold parts off the diesel for more money than I paid for the gas engine. It was impressive on how fast it started with two batteries and the diesel starter. Drove that car for about six years and sold it for enough to cover everything that I had spent on it.

 

[ultrarunner]

I bought an Eldorado with one of those motors. I got it really cheap as they had a bad reputation and this one had a blown head gasket. It lasted a year before it blew again so I swapped in a 350 Oldsmobile motor. I actually sold parts off the diesel for more money than I paid for the gas engine. It was impressive on how fast it started with two batteries and the diesel starter. Drove that car for about six years and sold it for enough to cover everything that I had spent on it.

Buy right and depreciation isn’t a factor…

 

[jjeff]

Around here it's hard to find one which doesn't have all of the junk I don't want. I call them pimpmobiles... can I say that here?

Speaking of work truck oriented pimp mobiles reliving my younger years got blacked out aluminum spoked rims came with one of the work truck packages on the Chevy 3500 Duramax truck I ordered. Almost every Tacoma I owned, I purchased black steel spike rims on 31s In a surprising visual upgrade I usually never do on my old 5 speed foreign winter beaters/ daily drivers used extensively when I'm not towing a trailer. wire wheeled all the cooroded silver aluminium rims on my winter beater primed it with etching rattle can paint and painted them black. After I told my stepson who will be driving next year that will be his car he suddenly stopped wanting to learn how to drive a 5 speed on our 15 acres. Lol. Other adults in his life have decided he should get an older awd automatic crossover or older 1/2'ton/ or compact pick up instead. He wants a nicer vehicle than I had til I was in my 20s I'm putting him to work on my hobby farm/ wildlife sanctuary if I'm contributing to get his first car . I'm kind of hopeful he realizes how lucky he.i s. Big thing for me is I hope whatever car he eventually gets doesn't have all the bells and whistles for safety devices besides good manually operated abs brakes and air bags. I want him to learn how to drive without relying on all the things like smart cruise, lane keeping,auto braking and blind spot indicators etc.

 

[jjeff]

Imo Not new thread worthy but was asked by a few not on here why I spent so much extra on a diesel Duramax vs gas with a pretty much base trim level. I think anyone that pulls a trailer frequently knows why. Even lighter trailers. Despite the chances of me ever getting back what I paid extra for a diesel vs a gas engine in terms of money a diesel definitely gets far better fuel mileage than any v6 SUV especially driving freeway speeds hauling pulling a trailer. Ex. My Duramax gets over 12 mpg pulling my 17k cap. 20' deck over pretty loaded, my wife's kia suv with factory tow package gets under 9 mpg yes 9 towing our Micro toyhauler that weighs under 3 k even with stuff in it. Extra maintenance I usually diy myself so I know it's right vs letting some yahoo making 10 bucks an hour do it although as I've gotten older I now let certain repair shops make repairs that have proven to me to do a competent honest job I used to do myself, work on my truck. A few useful options I got them now instead of later cuz it might probably prevent me from using my truck for something I initially didn't plan on. I remember 6 or 7 yrs ago driving north in a blizzard pulling an enclosed snowmobile trailer with 2 snowmobiles in it with my current Sierra Duramax dozens of cars were in the ditch the freeway looked like a icerink with snowdrifts stretched across it with 50+ mph gusts looked out my mirror and the wind was blowing the enclosed trailer at over a 45 degree angle to truck I still think if anything less than a 3/4 ton with the extra weight from the diesel with 4wd engaged I'd be lin the ditch like all the numerous 1/2 tons I passed. I don't use the truck for a grocery getter or a school bus. Hence me always mentioning how I enjoy my old cheap foreign 4 cylinder 5 speed beaters for daily driving. As for towing heavy, down steep grades with the exhaust brake on despite the steepness of grades road sign warnings rarely if ever had to touch brakes. Remember driving behind a gas one or 3/4 ton pulling what looked like a heavy load had to roll up my windows cuz all I smelled was there brake pads burning off. Anyways I could go on but I'm sure others have better reasons why they own and drive diesel pickups over gas.

 

[Renze]

The stock DT360 power output was sad but that was more for reliability and fuel efficiency.

Here in Europe we get the Cummins B6.7 up to 310hp in up to 18 ton GVW and, i think, 27 ton combined. In combination with a ZF Powerline 8 speed automatic, which is also used in pickup trucks. 6 and 9 speed manual transmissions are also available.

Off course the duty cycle for distribution trucks is quite different to that of a pickup truck, and horsepower and redline are adjusted accordingly.

In a medium duty pickup truck application a DT360 could deliver a lot more horsepower too.

Anyways, the MAN D08 engine, 6.9 liter, is the TRATON equivalent of the B6.7. Maybe they get an idea...

 

[jyoutz]

Imo Not new thread worthy but was asked by a few not on here why I spent so much extra on a diesel Duramax vs gas with a pretty much base trim level. I think anyone that pulls a trailer frequently knows why. Even lighter trailers. Despite the chances of me ever getting back what I paid extra for a diesel vs a gas engine in terms of money a diesel definitely gets far better fuel mileage than any v6 SUV especially driving freeway speeds hauling pulling a trailer. Ex. My Duramax gets over 12 mpg pulling my 17k cap. 20' deck over pretty loaded, my wife's kia suv with factory tow package gets under 9 mpg yes 9 towing our Micro toyhauler that weighs under 3 k even with stuff in it. Extra maintenance I usually diy myself so I know it's right vs letting some yahoo making 10 bucks an hour do it although as I've gotten older I now let certain repair shops make repairs that have proven to me to do a competent honest job I used to do myself, work on my truck. A few useful options I got them now instead of later cuz it might probably prevent me from using my truck for something I initially didn't plan on. I remember 6 or 7 yrs ago driving north in a blizzard pulling an enclosed snowmobile trailer with 2 snowmobiles in it with my current Sierra Duramax dozens of cars were in the ditch the freeway looked like a icerink with snowdrifts stretched across it with 50+ mph gusts looked out my mirror and the wind was blowing the enclosed trailer at over a 45 degree angle to truck I still think if anything less than a 3/4 ton with the extra weight from the diesel with 4wd engaged I'd be lin the ditch like all the numerous 1/2 tons I passed. I don't use the truck for a grocery getter or a school bus. Hence me always mentioning how I enjoy my old cheap foreign 4 cylinder 5 speed beaters for daily driving. As for towing heavy, down steep grades with the exhaust brake on despite the steepness of grades road sign warnings rarely if ever had to touch brakes. Remember driving behind a gas one or 3/4 ton pulling what looked like a heavy load had to roll up my windows cuz all I smelled was there brake pads burning off. Anyways I could go on but I'm sure others have better reasons why they own and drive diesel pickups over gas.

Another reason: resale value down the road. A used gasser truck with 200K miles has very little resale value, however a diesel truck with the same mileage is can be resold at a decent price.

 

[Runner]

Another reason: resale value down the road. A used gasser truck with 200K miles has very little resale value, however a diesel truck with the same mileage is can be resold at a decent price.

At the rate I'm going, it will take me another 380 years to break 200,000 miles on my truck.

 

[3930dave]

I remember 6 or 7 yrs ago driving north in a blizzard pulling an enclosed snowmobile trailer with 2 snowmobiles in it with my current Sierra Duramax dozens of cars were in the ditch the freeway looked like a icerink with snowdrifts stretched across it with 50+ mph gusts looked out my mirror and the wind was blowing the enclosed trailer at over a 45 degree angle to truck I still think if anything less than a 3/4 ton with the extra weight from the diesel with 4wd engaged I'd be lin the ditch like all the numerous 1/2 tons I passed.

^, back to your point, about your step-son learning with the Digital Guardians = Off...... many people don't want to think about it/or believe it, but all this tech has limitations or blindspots, and that ^ type of weather can slam that home, literally.

Rgds, D.

 

[jjeff]

Another reason: resale value down the road. A used gasser truck with 200K miles has very little resale value, however a diesel truck with the same mileage is can be resold at a decent price.

1 tons especially 3/4 ton pickups used gas or diesel folks are asking and probably getting a lot for them. I was pretty surprised on the book value of this one does it mean someone will pay that problaby not even though it's pretty mechanically sound and maintained mechanically above what I seen others do. For now I'm holding onto it meaning it's not listed but will sell if the offers right.