Stabil in the mix?

[xyz123]

Stabilizer in my OPE with Efree gas is right here in bottle.


Never added any extra BS outside source in OPE. Never a issue but I still say that is because of Efree.

 

[John_Mc]

Stabilizer in my OPE with Efree gas is right here in bottle.


Never added any extra BS outside source in OPE. Never a issue but I still say that is because of Efree.

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Most of the name brand mix oils also contain a fuel stabilizer (at least all of the ones I have ever used do). I certainly agree that E0 fuel is he way to go, if you can get it. I have no hard evidence, but I suspect that has a far larger effect on engine and carb longevity than whether someone uses a stabilizer or not. The shelf life of E0 is longer than E10 or E15 gas. I add stabilizer in every 5 gallon can of E0 I buy for my small engines, mainly because I'm never sure how quickly I will use it up. I only mix a gallon at a time of fuel for my 2 cycle engines. Yes, the stabilizer in the mix oil is probably redundant. On the other hand, the only 2 cycle engine I've had fuel/mix-related problem with is the brush saw I lent to a friend who straight-gassed it.

 

[dodge man]

Cause and effect? People often say I used a particular product and my carb clogged up. It may or may not be related to the product. That’s what’s great about Project Farm, he tries to get results in a practical way.

If you look at all of the fuel in his tests it all looks old. My take is non ethanol fuel lasts longer. Stabil helps a little. All fuel gets old with time.

 

[Fields_mj]

I'm not pretending it's anything great, or that it lives up to its marketing hype. But the reality is that any product with a 100% failure rate would not be at the top of the market, in terms of sales, especially after 20+ years on the shelves.

Stabil may be crap, I certainly don't use it anymore. But I have to question your story, just the same. No one is losing "entire fleets of equipment", or having every engine into which they install it fail, without some other undisclosed factors in the mix.

And I have used Stabil in the past, many times in my own portable generators, with no issues. I switched to StarTron several years ago, because it's supposed to be better, but I've honestly never had any issue with either.

To be fair, I'm not exactly sure how many engines my dad lost with Stabil. He was responsible for maintaining roughly 75 acres spreas across 5 different campuses at the time. Most of his equipment was either diesel or 2 stroke. I know he lost the engines on at least 5 snow blowers, but I'm not sure what else. Listening to him rant more about it wasn't going to replace the engines on my atv, Dixie chopper, tillers, or string trimmer so I just let it go.

 

[TMGT]

The only time ive seen issues with Stabil is when its used in excess. My uncle is one of those "more is better people" would overdose equipment on Stabil (or other stabilizers) and then get rid of the equipment after it wouldn't start. I didn't mind as I was usually the recipient of the non functional equipment!

I treat all my gas cans with stabil when bought as I never know whats equipment is going to sit. I also run 90 octane ethanol free.
I have equipment that will sit for a year plus due to seasonal usage and it starts right up when needed, we live in a pretty humid area with pretty drastic season changes.

For my 2 stroke equipment I just use red armor oil and so far haven't had any issues. Even when sitting.



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[RandyT]

Run 91 octane non ethanol in my equipment. Log splitter left setting with 1/4 tank of untreated fuel from November to just last week. and started on the first pull.

 

[Rock Crawler]

Echo Red Armor (red dyed, not the base Echo oil that is blue) and the Stihl HP (orange Bottle, not the cheaper grey bottle) both contain your fuel stabilizer in the oil.

 

[kenmbz]

I use Stabil in my source gas containers (not in Diesel, use Powerservice in those).
My father used Stabil too, so between the two of us, probably using it for about 40+ years with no issues.

I can't get E0 in this area. I buy canned gas for the saws, but use Stabil gas in the snow blower, chipper, hedge trimmer and sometimes in season for the brush cutter, the splitter and in the lawn tractor.
I also use the stabil gas in the generator.
That Genny gets used almost monthly with trees falling around here and starts right up first time. Almost always has a gallon of gas in it.

I run each system after shutting off the gas supply until it dies.

 

[John_Mc]

Echo Red Armor (red dyed, not the base Echo oil that is blue) and the Stihl HP (orange Bottle, not the cheaper grey bottle) both contain your fuel stabilizer in the oil.

Actually, the Stihl orange bottle is the cheaper stuff. They claim the gray bottle is their “high end” 2 cycle oil.

I used the Stihl gray bottle stuff for a while, since it is one of the easiest to find in my area. I stopped using it when I started seeing a lot of reviews panning it on a couple of chainsaw and Forestry websites.

Switched to the Husqvarna XP+ oil (gray bottle). It’s been working well for me for years now. My only complaint is that I wish their larger bottles had a built-in measuring system for measuring 2.6 ounces accurately. I prefer to mix a gallon at a time, but it just seems wasteful to keep buying those individual 2.6 ounce bottles. (I did order one of those “RatioRite” measuring cups, but it’s not very convenient for me.)

 

[mjonesnh]

Actually, the Stihl orange bottle is the cheaper stuff. They claim the gray bottle is their “high end” 2 cycle oil.

Used to use Stihl in gray bottle but started having carbon issues in exhaust plugging up. Switched to Echo Red Armour and problem disappeared. Have used Red Armour for around 6 years now with zero problems.