Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days!

[Runner]

Heated windshields? I vaguely remember one automaker (Ford?) offering something along that line decades ago as an option on some models but it didn't seem to be around very long.

The Toyota GR Corolla has a heated windshield, but only the part at the bottom where the wipers park. Also has heated mirrors.

 

[deserteagle71]

Gps mapping will sometimes direct you down a named two track. As long as it's named ona map, gated or not gps figures its useable by a 2wd passenger car i guess.

It will generally seek to keep you on primary road systems.

The problem is, again, garbage in - garbage out. So it depends on when and if anyone bothered to update the map. There is a section of road south of here that I've been driving for nearly 50 years, yet the map atlases and GPS units insist on showing the abandoned road several miles to the west as the primary road and the road I've been driving as a primitive road. It is actually just the opposite. Because I had time to kill, this past spring I drove the abandoned road (that they show as the primary) in my Jeep Rubicon and barely made it through, it was so washed out. What the maps and GPS show as a primitive road is smooth and regularly bladed by the county.

 

[jjeff]

Snow drift but, According to my wife's cars factory mapping on her huge flat screen tv we need to take a named driveway about 3 houses down from our residence then follow nothing more than a deer runway to get to our house, guess I' should ask the kids what we should name our 1k' driveway that's been here for decades and contact Google or garmin or something lol. Friends put our cabin address in there cars oem mapping system and ended up on a gated named two track, luckily gates were open, there 4wd had a few nice scratches from brush plus a adventurous story when they arrived. That was a little over a year ago. Meanwhile my old, had for at least 15 yrs) garmin 62st with preloaded topo and trails sometimes completely overgrown with brush and small trees, has never got me lost two tracking on snowmobiles or ATVs In what I consider the backwoods using it. although I have had to back track a few times due to gates, washed out culverts/ bridges, or no trespassing signs. I tread lightly.

 

[WinterDeere]

The problem is, again, garbage in - garbage out. So it depends on when and if anyone bothered to update the map. There is a section of road south of here that I've been driving for nearly 50 years, yet the map atlases and GPS units insist on showing the abandoned road several miles to the west as the primary road and the road I've been driving as a primitive road. It is actually just the opposite. Because I had time to kill, this past spring I drove the abandoned road (that they show as the primary) in my Jeep Rubicon and barely made it through, it was so washed out. What the maps and GPS show as a primitive road is smooth and regularly bladed by the county.

Which service? I believe Waze will automatically update to use your unmarked road as the preferred route, if you take it several times with the software actively running. It is constantly updating routing information, based on actual swarm activity, not just native map data.

edit: Knowing there are private gated roads, Waze might need to see more than one user choosing the same road, before it updates to show that as a preferred route. I'm not sure how "individualized" their routing is.

 

[jjeff]

Which service? I believe Waze will automatically update to use your unmarked road as the preferred route, if you take it several times with the software actively running. It is constantly updating routing information, based on actual swarm activity, not just native map data.

edit: Knowing there are private gated roads, Waze might need to see more than one user choosing the same road, before it updates to show that as a preferred route. I'm not sure how "individualized" their routing is.

Will waze use and store other drivers data using the app, to determine routes,? If so I don't think it' will always be reliable in certain circumstances. I only use my ,old garmin 62 st as a compact map. Not a route planner by punching in a destination. It does work good especially if you have paper maps planning beforehand where you want to ride using both. I've heard pretty positive things of people I know using waze on road trips.though in non rural areas.

 

[Hay Dude]

My RAM GPS shows a road abandoned 75 years ago. I now mow hay over part of it. Kinda cool imagining it was still there. It was a really scenic, meandering road through meadows. Would make a great shortcut.

 

[jjeff]

You get that route taking you over a abandoned 75:yr old road with a individual driving a Prius wearing Birkenstocks cuz it shows up on your infotainment system Problaby asking for trouble.

 

[jjeff]

I've seen it before up north people I snowmobile with we helped get out a gps following Jeep Grand Cherokee driving individual buried on a unplowed seasonal Rd. Fortunately he didn't get to far off a plowed rd before he high centered.

 

[WinterDeere]

Will waze use and store other drivers data using the app, to determine routes,? If so I don't think it' will always be reliable in certain circumstances. I only use my ,old garmin 62 st as a compact map. Not a route planner by punching in a destination. It does work good especially if you have paper maps planning beforehand where you want to ride using both. I've heard pretty positive things of people I know using waze on road trips.though in non rural areas.

Waze was a huge leap forward in routing, about 16 years ago, as they were the first to use "swarm data" to constantly change routing. I've seen myself that it will change its routing on subsequent trips, based on me knowing and taking a better route several times. And yes, it's based on what every person running the app does, not just your personal driving habits. I'm just not sure how many different drivers need to take the same "new" route, before Waze will recognize it as publicly-available, versus a private road.

I mostly run it because it tell you where police have set up speed traps, or when there's an obstacle or bad pothole ahead on the road. The mapping feature is nice, even on your daily commute, as it will steer you around any unexpected congestion (construction, accident, police activity) ahead.

My RAM GPS shows a road abandoned 75 years ago. I now mow hay over part of it. Kinda cool imagining it was still there. It was a really scenic, meandering road through meadows. Would make a great shortcut.

This was you?!?

 

[Oaktree]

I've seen it before up north people I snowmobile with we helped get out a gps following Jeep Grand Cherokee driving individual buried on a unplowed seasonal Rd. Fortunately he didn't get to far off a plowed rd before he high centered.

Neighbor of mine used to have an autobody shop, and would often get wrecker calls from drivers whose GPS took them down some class VI road and got stuck. One would think a little common sense would apply here, but that's probably asking too much.

The problem is, again, garbage in - garbage out. So it depends on when and if anyone bothered to update the map. There is a section of road south of here that I've been driving for nearly 50 years, yet the map atlases and GPS units insist on showing the abandoned road several miles to the west as the primary road and the road I've been driving as a primitive road. It is actually just the opposite. Because I had time to kill, this past spring I drove the abandoned road (that they show as the primary) in my Jeep Rubicon and barely made it through, it was so washed out. What the maps and GPS show as a primitive road is smooth and regularly bladed by the county.

I would imagine GPS programmers (as well as road atlas publishers) insert some "easter eggs" into their maps to flag copyright infringement. Seems a bit irresponsible if it gets users lost/stuck in some remote area.