Auto Dealers

[sandman2234]

Motor went out in my Wife's car at 155k and Hyundai agreed to replace the motor. Dealership wanted us to pay almost $7,000 for stuff that would be easier done "while the motor was out".
I found out that the dealerships current hourly rate is $335 an hour, based flat rate hours. I made some calls and got the prices on al the parts I wanted to replace while the motor was out and made them a counter offer to pay for the parts and a little bit for stuff that required "extra work" to swap. Some of the stuff made it easier for them (like installing new fuel injectors) because they didn't have to remove the old ones, just open a box. Hoses and stuff had to be removed anyway, so that was a no brainer.
David from jax

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

Motor went out in my Wife's car at 155k and Hyundai agreed to replace the motor. Dealership wanted us to pay almost $7,000 for stuff that would be easier done "while the motor was out".
I found out that the dealerships current hourly rate is $335 an hour, based flat rate hours. I made some calls and got the prices on al the parts I wanted to replace while the motor was out and made them a counter offer to pay for the parts and a little bit for stuff that required "extra work" to swap. Some of the stuff made it easier for them (like installing new fuel injectors) because they didn't have to remove the old ones, just open a box. Hoses and stuff had to be removed anyway, so that was a no brainer.
David from jax

Our Hyundai & Kia we sell or trade in before the 100K/10yr warranty is out.

I'm sure it's just me but $7,000 for 155,000 miles doesn't seem bad. That's 4.5 cents/mile or the equivalent of $1.80/gallon of gas IF it averaged 40 m.p.g.

 

[scootr]

Went into the Kubota dealer for their super hydraulic oil last year. I saw 0% and 2% financing signs all over and found the oil, a 2 liter jug was $95 (prolly more now). So I slapped the jug of oil on the counter and asked the clerk 'What kind of financing are you offering on this item?' We had a good laugh but, I still had to shell out $110 with tax

 

[sandman2234]

Our Hyundai & Kia we sell or trade in before the 100K/10yr warranty is out.

I'm sure it's just me but $7,000 for 155,000 miles doesn't seem bad. That's 4.5 cents/mile or the equivalent of $1.80/gallon of gas IF it averaged 40 m.p.g.

The motor replacement was free, paid for by Hyundai. The 2.0t motor came with 100k but they had some issues with chips from machining getting into bad places so they upgraded the warranty to 120k and then just went "lifetime". My Bride really, really, really likes her car and as long as I can, I am going to keep it running. I was concerned when the motor went, but She had kept her oil changes up to date, done the inspection where Hyudai went in and inspected a couple of things. Hyundai graciously put a long block in it, the $7k was to the dealership to change things like injectors, water hoses, heater hoses, spark plugs and a few other things. Things that would be easy to change while the motor was out, but not under Hyundai's warranty. Taking the injectors out of the old block and putting them into the new block would be a lot more work (but paid for by Hyundai) so for me to pay them to buy new injectors and pay flatrate to install them was making it easier on them, because all they had to do was open the box, leave the old ones in the old block. I immediately disputed the labor cost on that one. The radiator hoses and heater hoses were being billed flatrate like the motor was still in the car. With one end of the hose already disconnected, changing those hoses was a single accessible hose clamp away. Plus installing new hoses is always easier than changing out old hardened hoses.
I basically negotiated them to do the work that they were being paid to do by Hyundai and paid them retail for the new parts that I figured was a good idea to put in while the motor was out. I did pay a little for the labor on a couple of parts that made it more work than what they were paid for under warranty. I wasn't trying to beat them out of getting paid, but I also didn't want to get overcharged and them paid twice for the work. They first just gave me the $7k estimate which is straight Flat Rate for those parts, but once I started having a discussion with the service advisor, he realized I wasn't just going to roll over for that. At $2700, it was a fair deal for both of us, and the tech who changed the motor made a few dollars more than just a motor change.
David from jax

 

[D&D]

It’s kind of like hospitals here… merge with a titan or turn out the lights…


Between regulation and market share the little guys simply fade away…

Hospitals, urgent care, pharmacies, insurance carriers, car dealers, restaurants, auto parts, home centers, retirement communities, tractor dealers……Corporate has taken over and we will suffer those consequences for awhile.

 

[RayIN]

In Feburary I bought 6, 1G jugs of Delvac 15W40 at Rural King for $14.99/G, with a $2 rebate from Delvac. Still waiting of the rebate today, but even it never arrives; I still got a good price, considering what it sells for today.

 

[TreeToad]

Just further proof what thieving criminals the auto industry is.
The pinion seal on the rear diff of my 2020 F150 is just starting to get damp. So I booked appointment to have it done at dealer because I remembered I still have extended warranty.
So gunna be two weeks before they get me in, so I stopped in today to get 2 litres of gear oil to carry with me in case I need to top up of it gets worse. I went to dealer because I didn't know off hand what type of oil for those locking rear diffs.
Turns out it is the same 75W-140 I just got for the Rockwell rear axle in my L9000.

Two litres....$105!!!!!! For comparison I got two pails to change out my L9000's Rockwell from my heavy truck parts supplier for $145 each. That's 20 litres per pail.

So by Ford dealer math that pail is worth $1000 and it would have cost me $2000 to do my big truck.
That is downright criminal. No doubt I'll be returning those now that I saw it's the same oil I have at home for the big truck.

Finance Or Robbery Division

 

[boatmoter]

Just further proof what thieving criminals the auto industry is.
The pinion seal on the rear diff of my 2020 F150 is just starting to get damp. So I booked appointment to have it done at dealer because I remembered I still have extended warranty.
So gunna be two weeks before they get me in, so I stopped in today to get 2 litres of gear oil to carry with me in case I need to top up of it gets worse. I went to dealer because I didn't know off hand what type of oil for those locking rear diffs.
Turns out it is the same 75W-140 I just got for the Rockwell rear axle in my L9000.

Two litres....$105!!!!!! For comparison I got two pails to change out my L9000's Rockwell from my heavy truck parts supplier for $145 each. That's 20 litres per pail.

So by Ford dealer math that pail is worth $1000 and it would have cost me $2000 to do my big truck.
That is downright criminal. No doubt I'll be returning those now that I saw it's the same oil I have at home for the big truck.

just make sure it's Synthetic oil your getting

 

[Oaktree]

I'm not a fan of China (though I do love my CF Moto atv's, they have been trouble free) but I sure hope these cheap Chinese automobiles that are about to flood the market put a hurting on the North American auto makers. They been ripping us off for so long. Time for a reset.

Be careful what you ask for. No gurarantee those Chinese automakers will be any easier to deal with than US/Japanese automakers are.

 

[4Liberty]

Just further proof what thieving criminals the auto industry is.
The pinion seal on the rear diff of my 2020 F150 is just starting to get damp. So I booked appointment to have it done at dealer because I remembered I still have extended warranty.
So gunna be two weeks before they get me in, so I stopped in today to get 2 litres of gear oil to carry with me in case I need to top up of it gets worse. I went to dealer because I didn't know off hand what type of oil for those locking rear diffs.
Turns out it is the same 75W-140 I just got for the Rockwell rear axle in my L9000.

Two litres....$105!!!!!! For comparison I got two pails to change out my L9000's Rockwell from my heavy truck parts supplier for $145 each. That's 20 litres per pail.

So by Ford dealer math that pail is worth $1000 and it would have cost me $2000 to do my big truck.
That is downright criminal. No doubt I'll be returning those now that I saw it's the same oil I have at home for the big truck.

Yes dealers are getting worse. One thing with the oil choices Ford does not make any of their own oil, and neither do any other automakers. And if you have a limited slip diff (clutch type) make sure it gets the limited slip additive unless the container specifically says it’s in there. You will break stuff. Reputable oil matching the manufacturer specified GL rating is perfect and sometimes better.

 

[4Liberty]

Another thought what do you mean by leaking? A little mark in the dust around the seal or an actual drip forming/oil on the ground?

 

[redmt]

My wife's 2024 Outback came with free oil changes. She had a 9 am appointment to bring it in. They said that she could pick it up again the next day. The 9am appointment was only the time to bring it in, not to get the oil changed. She told them what they could do with the free oil change.

 

[ZiggyD]

You're being inconsiderate. The dealership owner has alimony and child support to pay every month. Your displeasure about the 300% price markup makes it so much harder on them.

 

[kpsp50]

Price of vehicles going up, quality is going down. Go figure

 

[Alan46]

I call them "Steelerships"!

But when you need a part, that's specific to a machine, what other options are there?

Pulled this drive motor idler pulley off my JD ZTrak yesterday ... The cast shaft the pulley bearing rides on is WORE OUT!

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A dabbed some grease on it, after I 1st heard it squealing, but it was too late! Only way I heard it was I forgot to put my ear plugs in before starting it!

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That with teach you, put your ear plugs in before starting!

 

[sunandsand]

Appliances, too.

Just replaced a Maytag dryer which cost $332 in 2004 - 22 years of work for $15 a year. It finally completely died (belt and thermofuse replaced some years back, easy fixes).

New dryer is over $500 and we specifically wanted minimal electronics. There is no reason your clothes dryer needs to be internet connected - BUT when some 10 cent chip goes out in five years and is unobtanium, you're buying another new dryer. (Only thing more annoying is when you get told the replacement board is 2/3 the cost of the entire dryer, and it is on indefinite back order anyway.)

The poor Hyundai dealer who charges $335 an hour for flat rate because he has alimony and child support to pay omitted to tell you he also has a yacht payment due.

Best Regards,
Mike/Florida

 

[Stu Cozza]

Be careful what you ask for. No gurarantee those Chinese automakers will be any easier to deal with than US/Japanese automakers are.

Eggs, Zachary. An hour after buying one, the customer feels a need to buy another.

 

[bgr]

Getting back to the topic of the right oil, the oil Paystar specified for his other truck is standard diff oil. You probably need to add a special limited slip clutch wear additive for the LS unit. Probably can get that at a performance shop or equivalent outlet. They used to be a tube costing about $25. n probably don't need it just to top off.

 

[Joel/ak]

My dad was complaining about getting his fuel filter changed on his 24 GMC 1500 with the 3.0 duramax. I told him to cancel the appointment. Picked him up a filter for $54 and it took me longer to reset his filter life through his dash than to replace the filter. Im not familiar with chevy/ GMC dash settings.

Saved him over $300 and a half day sitting in the dealership.

Prices are stupid at dealerships.

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[Alan46]

I had a rear turn signal burn out on my 2014 350 Super duty I read online that a dealer wanted 65$ to replace, I don’t know where that was. I went to Napa in Oregon and for 11$ I changed both of mine!!!