Gooseneck for 150/1500 truck

[Flogger]

Any correlation between the towing and tranny R&R ?

We put all kinds of coolers on them but never occurred to us to install a temp gauge so we could witness the slaughter!

 

[D&D]

We put all kinds of coolers on them but never occurred to us to install a temp gauge so we could witness the slaughter!

Yep, that is a pretty important number

 

[deezler]

Im gonna vote for, it depends....
see page 7

https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/content/dam/brand_ford/en_us/brand/cpo/pdf/2023_Ford_F-150_Towing_Info_Dec16.pdf

Good call, we have all the manufacturer data available here.

For my configuration of F150 (crew cab, 6.5' bed = 157"wb, 3.31 gears = not max-tow) my conventional bumper tow is 11.2k but the 5th wheel tow rating is 10.1k, interesting.

But for the 3.73 gears (max tow) the rating is the same at 13.7k for either bumper-pull or 5th wheel.

 

[not2old]

I've never towed with a goose neck. Are there any differences to a 5th wheel other than the side to side flexibility?

 

[dodge man]

Keep in mind that when looking at tow charts they often don’t apply to your truck. Often in fine print it says when properly equipped. You can tow about anything with a half ton. Is it safe and legal is another question? To make a gooseneck or 5th wheel practical you need a payload approaching 3000 pounds.

 

[Hay Dude]

I've never towed with a goose neck. Are there any differences to a 5th wheel other than the side to side flexibility?

You mean between a 5th wheel and a GN?

A GN has a ball which can be mounted below the trucks bed, allowing more open cargo space when towing. It also allows more while towing because the 5th wheel apparatus is pretty large.

I would actually like a 5th wheel for a change someday, but I don’t think I can sacrifice the bed space.

 

[4570Man]

You mean between a 5th wheel and a GN?

A GN has a ball which can be mounted below the trucks bed, allowing more open cargo space when towing. It also allows more while towing because the 5th wheel apparatus is pretty large.

I would actually like a 5th wheel for a change someday, but I don’t think I can sacrifice the bed space.

I don’t like giving up the bed space even for a gooseneck. I have a 30ft gooseneck but I can haul nearly the same load using the flat bed and the bumper pull trailer.

 

[Hay Dude]

I don’t like giving up the bed space even for a gooseneck. I have a 30ft gooseneck but I can haul nearly the same load using the flat bed and the bumper pull trailer. View attachment 3941856

I couldn’t match this GN load of hay with a bumper pull and loading the bed.

If I shifted 2 bales of the 16 onto the bed, that would leave 14 bales. There’s no 20,000lb GVWR trailer that will carry 14 large bales without being overweight. Heck, the 14 bales weigh 12 tons alone. Even if I put 4 on the truck, and 12 on the trailer, the bales would weigh over 10 tons.
A 20,000lb GVWR trailer usually has a payload max of about 8 tons.

I hate the way a fully loaded BP feels compared to a fully loaded GN. The GN’s ride & handle nicer, putting more weight on the trucks front axle than a BP.

 

[nisaacs]

My baby load (about 5k) on my bumper pull.

 

[4570Man]

I couldn’t match this GN load of hay with a bumper pull and loading the bed.

View attachment 3941857

If I shifted 2 bales of the 16 onto the bed, that would leave 14 bales. There’s no 20,000lb GVWR trailer that will carry 14 large bales without being overweight. Heck, the 14 bales weigh 12 tons alone. Even if I put 4 on the truck, and 12 on the trailer, the bales would weigh over 10 tons.
A 20,000lb GVWR trailer usually has a payload max of about 8 tons.

I hate the way a fully loaded BP feels compared to a fully loaded GN. The GN’s ride & handle nicer, putting more weight on the trucks front axle than a BP.

If I had a 15 ton trailer it would be a different outcome but the weight capacity of the bed and bumper pull trailer combined is about the same as my 22k gooseneck trailer. This is not my truck but I really want to do the same thing with my Volvo. The Volvo is head and shoulders apart from the F-550.