10,000 gallon water tank delivered

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3RRL said:
IMHO, 10,000 gals is a lot water to fight a fire.
Anybody know what the big fire trucks carry? I know when the fire marshal came up in his small truck it only held 350 gals. So his (Derik's) tank is a supplement for the trucks anyway, right?
Derik,
What size fitting is on your fire hydrant. What thread size too?

Derik's tank is just a holding action until a water shuttle can be set up. If the first engine brings 3k gallons & attaches to his hydrant they have 13 minutes to fight the fire before there's no more water. If you look at FF9208 & Schmism's math, which is dead on, you'll see that shuttle tankers can drop about 3k gallons in 3 minutes. Notice that that's about the rate of use so you need one truck dumping constantly with others refilling, travelling, & manuvering constantly. Not uncommon in New England to have 10 or more tankers shuttling to a fire & there ain't much desert or wildfire in NE. Class A foam turns the water to a lather that clings to even vertical surfaces. Try that with plain water. Considering the magnitude ot the fires in San Diego, I doubt anyone can commit 10 tankers solely to Derik's house. With the foam & application apparatus he could hold off a wildfire for a lot longer, possibly enough that it would go around him. On the other hand meeting the Fire Depts standards & having good insurance poses much less personal risk. I try not to over rely on the government as they often are the first to let you down in a moment of need. MikeD74T
 
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The Newly developed fire codes require sprinklers within the house, no combustable materials used in construction on the outside of the home, and a host of other construction techniques to limit the chance of the house catching fire from the brush. Prior to getting a permit you must also have the storage tank, the hydrant and a cleared area of a 100 feet around the home, with no native brush, only lawn grass and some " approved plants". That is the stage I am on now with my property.

The valve on the hydrant/ water pipe is 4 inch and then a brass fitting that reduces to 2 inch male to accept a fire hose screws onto that.
The hydrant must be no closer than 50 feet and no further than 150 feet from the home. It must also put out 250 gallons a min. I am guessing that the fire truck hooks up to the valve and then runs the water through the pump truck to create more pressure.

It's big government telling you what you can and can't plant on your own property but I guess it's for your own good. What I have noticed here is once the major populated areas are free of fire and all the politicians have pat themselves on the back then they send home all the aircraft and out of state fire fighters and let the local rural firefighters and residence take care of themselfs. For that reason, (and a few others) I am going to put in a large pond and have a good high pressure pump.
 
   / 10,000 gallon water tank delivered #63  
I would burry the lines deeper. It is a real pain if you cut one later and real easy to go 3 or 4 feet deep now. Who knows what you will want to dig up in 5 years.
 
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The water lines are over 3 feet deep where my house is and where anyone would ever drive. The rest are over 2 feet deep. Remember were talking about 1,100 feet of trench and 3,000 feet of pipe burried in hard pan decomposed granite and clay with some sand and lots of rocks. We broke several shanks and and went through two buckets.
 

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