100 to 120hp deere

   / 100 to 120hp deere #11  
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My experience is that the hyd systems on the 50/55 series Mannheim built tractors are nowhere near as dependable as the Waterloo rowcrop tractors. Granted some later model RC tractors aren't built in Waterloo.

You are right hyd problems on 50 series and engine problems with smaller waterloo's take your pick .
 
   / 100 to 120hp deere
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Looked at a used 6420, an a 7130 at the dealer yesterday cant stand all the plastic on these tractors now days. plastic shouldn.t be on a tractor an all the freaking computerize crap more things to break an fix. Why can't they be built to last.
 
   / 100 to 120hp deere #13  
How far from the 49th parallel are you???? I would love to get my hands on either of those tractors you have now!!!
 
   / 100 to 120hp deere #14  
Let's see what you have. I would like to get a larger tractor!
 
   / 100 to 120hp deere #15  
hey tx jim what is the hydraulic problem with them? the mannheim tractors that i have seen with problems were grey market tractors.hi hours gets to them all.
 
   / 100 to 120hp deere #16  
hey tx jim what is the hydraulic problem with them? the mannheim tractors that i have seen with problems were grey market tractors.hi hours gets to them all.

On Mannheim built tractors the rockshaft valves tend to have more o-ring failures than the Waterloo built models. Also the hyd pto & hyd hi-lo supply tubes have a history of o-ring &/or tube failure. In my experience as a retired JD dealer service manager the utility type tractors were more difficult to diagnose/repair hyd problems than the rowcrop tractors. I also think the hi-lo & hyd pto clutches on utilities gave more problems than the rowcrops.
 
   / 100 to 120hp deere #17  
Are you looking for new (newer?) or used. Personally, I like the older 40 series Deere's. Simply light years ahead of their competition from that era. (Especially the 4440) Looking real hard at a low hour 4450MFWD at the moment. I've got 3 6430 Premiums (2007 and 2008) and have nothing but praise for them Bought two Masseys in same size range and wish I wouldn't have. They just don't hold up to the hard use like the Deere's do, not to mention the rather substantial drop off in worth after a couple seasons. We demo-ed a couple NH's this fall, and crossed them off the list. Operators just didn't care for them. We demo-ed a couple Challengers too, but since they're essentially a Massey (albeit with a slightly better service contract available to us) they didn't stay on the list very long.

I've had a history with MF's and still like their older tractors (under 100hp) but have had such good luck with the Deere's, I'm beginning to see just one brand as an option. No decent CaseIH dealers in this area, so they're out of the question.

It's not uncommon for us to put as many hours on a tractor in 2 or 3 seasons as is typical of a farm tractor in 10 or 15 years, It's very critical to get a unit that has a long life expectancy. (and a good resale value once it has high hours) No one has been able to stand along side of Deere in that regard.

Adding a pair of 6170R's to the mowing fleet this coming year (140pto hp) (will be pulling 20' bat wing mowers) I'll be able to comment more on them in a few months.
 
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   / 100 to 120hp deere #18  
tx jm i have seen the o ring failures before ,but did not realize it to be a big problem. most of my experience is with row crop tractors.fmj ,i like older masseys under 100 hp too.what kind of problems did you have with the new ones? the state of alabama sold off about a 25 5465 mf last year .the tractors were low hour between 500 and 1500 hours.about 10 of them were listed as bad engine or transmission.they had a lot of electrical problems.
 
   / 100 to 120hp deere #19  
The german 50 series that are your 55 series were some of the best efforts deere produced unlike some of the lower model 7000 series like 7200 7400

Not sure what you mean here because the 7200, 7400, 7210, 7410 are all great tractors.

No significant difference between them and a 7810.
 
   / 100 to 120hp deere #20  
tx jm i have seen the o ring failures before ,but did not realize it to be a big problem. most of my experience is with row crop tractors.fmj ,i like older masseys under 100 hp too.what kind of problems did you have with the new ones? the state of alabama sold off about a 25 5465 mf last year .the tractors were low hour between 500 and 1500 hours.about 10 of them were listed as bad engine or transmission.they had a lot of electrical problems.

Sorry I don't understand your question. I have zero experience with Massey's or JD 5465's. I don't like the newer JD electronic/plastic model tractors.In general Dubuque/Mannheim tractors gave more hyd problems than Waterloo built tractors at least up to the mid 90 models.
 

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