10w-30 diesel rated oil

   / 10w-30 diesel rated oil
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#11  
15 dollar heating patch?? you guys are lucky up here a 2" by 3" patch will but you back 100 dollars

I was looking for dino oil but I did know that mobil is cf rated but was kind of hoping to find atleast a ci or cj rated 10w30

went to tsc this week and also advance auto and struck out at both places

I guess I will have to go with the 20 dollar gallon of castrol tection hd
 
   / 10w-30 diesel rated oil
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#12  
well, I finally had to settle for 5w-40 rotella synthetic. at walmart for 22.00 bucks. i can't believe it is so hard to find a 10w-30. I guess most people just blindly run 15w-40 in their diesels out of habit instead of trusting what the manufacturers spend millions to know what to recommend because after all they are the ones providing the warranty
 
   / 10w-30 diesel rated oil #13  
well, I finally had to settle for 5w-40 rotella synthetic. at walmart for 22.00 bucks. i can't believe it is so hard to find a 10w-30. I guess most people just blindly run 15w-40 in their diesels out of habit instead of trusting what the manufacturers spend millions to know what to recommend because after all they are the ones providing the warranty
I'm now running the same Rotella 5w-40...and I also paid $22 at wally world :D
The tractor already sounds and feels a bit different. But that may be the same thing as how your car seems to run better after a good wash and wax :rolleyes:
 
   / 10w-30 diesel rated oil #14  
I'm using Mobil 1 0w30 in all my engines: 2 diesel and about 4 gas. It's diesel rated.

Ralph
 
   / 10w-30 diesel rated oil #15  
I'm using Mobil 1 0w30 in all my engines: 2 diesel and about 4 gas. It's diesel rated.

Ralph
Ralph - Are you SURE that is okay for diesel equipment? Yes, it has the CF rating, but it also says "For Gasoline Engines" on the bottle, and at the Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy site it says:
"Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is recommended for SAE 0W-30, 5W-30 and 10W-30 applications in all types of modern gasoline fueled..", and doesn't mention diesel anywhere. I doubt it has the add-pack we're counting on in the HDEO's to help keep our diesels cleaned out. I'm just sayin' :eek:

Did you check with Mobil 1 to see what they say about it? I'd hate to see a fellow TBN'er have problems down the road, y'know? :(
 
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that is what I was worried about with the mobil 1. I've run the 5w30 supersyn in my car for the last 145,000 km with no problems whatsoever but the cf rating was bugging me especially since the real diesel specific oils are up to cj. I was thinking it was worth it to get a specific product engineered to do the job rather than get a product that is marketed to cover too many applications

anyone know of a truck stop or diesel mechanic in the north east around st-albans or burlington vermont that sells oil and antifreeze products that are diesel specific. I'm getting ready to flush the coolant and am running into the same problem. all the parts stores have is generic automotive type antifreeze and not diesel engine specific

thanks
 
   / 10w-30 diesel rated oil #18  
that is what I was worried about with the mobil 1. I've run the 5w30 supersyn in my car for the last 145,000 km with no problems whatsoever but the cf rating was bugging me especially since the real diesel specific oils are up to cj. I was thinking it was worth it to get a specific product engineered to do the job rather than get a product that is marketed to cover too many applications

anyone know of a truck stop or diesel mechanic in the north east around st-albans or burlington vermont that sells oil and antifreeze products that are diesel specific. I'm getting ready to flush the coolant and am running into the same problem. all the parts stores have is generic automotive type antifreeze and not diesel engine specific

thanks
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For the antifreeze, all B series I have seen call for just regular EG; ethylene glycol, or LLC; long life coolant, but either should be an EG base only, and never exceed 50% antifreeze. My B3030 manual states 50/50 antifreeze/water or 40/60 meet specifications; and freeze points are -37F/-12F at 50%, and -24C/-12F at 40%. I guess if you live where; or want freeze protection below that, one would have to mix at probably 60/40, and dilute it once warm weather arrives, since concentrations above ~60% don't transfer heat well. To bring regular EG antifreeze up to what a lot of diesel manufacturers call for with sleeved engines, and/or several dissimilar metals used throughout the engine is just a DCA inhibitor along with test strips. NAPAcool or similar is not hard to find, but if you hit some truckstops or parts stores that cater to truckers/heavy equipment you should be able to find some pre-charged with the additive already in it; usually it is purple in color. I think I will use a G-05 spec coolant in my B3030 when I service it in the future, it is an EG base with a good additive pkg as is, and many US and Euro diesels spec it. Chrysler specs it to be red in color, Ford, Cat, MB, MTU and others spec it in a very lightly tinted yellow/gold. A good read site is: Ashland Oil, then Valvoline/Zerex for specs. Kubota, per my supplied manual, supplies a EG based LLC, but even though it is a long life, it states it is good for 2 years service only.

On the oil, CF-4, and the CG and CH oils are now easier to find and are supposed? to be fine with low sulfur, and ultra low sulfur diesel. Do you know what fuel is available in your area?, even though high sulfur fuel may be available in your area, if it is like the US, most fuel distributors just use the same fuel for the off road pumps, just add the dye when truck is filled, or is added when it is dumped at the retailer, so most, but not all off road is the exact same as the on road pumps with the exception of the added dye marker. The reason I am stating that is IF you might be declining the viscosity you want due to the CG/CF ratings thinking you are using high sulfur fuel, since CG/CF oils require shorter change intervails with LSD, and ULSD. If you just want a high TBN number, regardless of what fuel is available in your area, a post in the last few weeks shows that John Deere markets a good synthetic, with a good additive pkg; with a high level of zinc at a decent price that IIRC is supplied in weights other than 15W40, and is supplied by ESSO Canada.
 
   / 10w-30 diesel rated oil #19  
JD Plus 50 10W-30 Supreme Motor Oil. It's rated CI-4 if I remember correctly (sorry IIRC). 12 quarts come in a box.

I think the price I paid was between $3 to $4 a quart -- but that sounds high to me. [The price I pay for JD +50 15W-40 Supreme Motor Oil in the 5 gallon bucket comes out to $2.56/quart.]

In my opinion (sorry IMO) Plus 50 is excellent oil considering my maintenance practices are roughly four times (4X) more often than the manual states. [3 quarts of oil and filter every 50 hours equates to $12 plus $6.75 divided by 50 equals 37.5 cents / hour. Money well spent on a $20,000 piece of equipment. 119.8 hours in 180 days.]

L8R
Ichabod
 
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   / 10w-30 diesel rated oil #20  
I consulted an engineer at EM who used to work for me. He says, "yes, CF is a diesel rating." Said he uses the 5w-40 in his diesel engine on his truck.

The 5w-40 is what I'd been using in the Benz. Now it has a 50/50 mix of 5w-40 (had some left over) and 0w-30. My JD has 0w-30, and I've been using the 5w-30 CF-rated Mobil 1 for the last 300 hours, changing once/yr instead of JD's recommended 200 hours.

It's interesting that the only vehicle that I've been able to measure a mileage increase on with Mobil 1 (5w-30) is my VW. It shows 1.7%. Can't measure it on the Benz or the Tacoma. Records on them show essentially the same, but the Benz needs a new timing chain to bring its valve timing back to par. May change it out in 2009. The chain may be stretching on the Tacoma as well and retarding its timing.

The JD showed 12 hours on its last 5 gallons. That's a decrease from its overall average of 0.46 gallons/hr, but I wouldn't put much on just one tankful measurement.

Ralph
 

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