110 tlb thumb question?

Gale Hawkins · Mar 2, 2013

AKfish said:
Ok... here's when I'll have to admit to making a dumb @ss move with my 110 backhoe! 'Cause I've got a dent along the edge of my boom arm - just like that!!!

If you leave the stabilizers in the up position and swing the hoe from side to side.... well, the backhoe is NOT designed to do that! And those darn stabilizer feet will absolutely crimp and roll it over; that 1/2" (might be 5/8") thick plate steel! Aaarrggh!

I only did it on one side, though... that was enough. 'Course, if you were in a full-blown swing motion - it would/is very hard to stop that motion with those legs up - the whole back end of the tractor is swaying! And you could crimp both edges.

AKfish

OK I can see that happening.

My DA move was just the opposite. I had the hoe swung to the side and under the stress of working my way out of being stuck I for some unknown reason raised the stabilizer on that same side and hit the hydraulic fitting that goes into a steel line and cracked it where the fitting was attached to the steel line. After having to fix that fine mess I expect I will never be tired enough to forget and do that again.

After that late one evening I was so proud of myself. I was moving the dirt from the same place where I got stuck cleaning out a ditch and messed up the hydraulic fitting with the stabilizer. I was going to have to use the truck lights to make one more load and after telling the kids we were going to make one more trip I just shut off the truck and got out. They wanted to know what was wrong. I told them we were through for the day and they like to have freaked out.

A feeling just came over me that I was pushing too hard being so tired and hungry and that adding in the low lighting condition just made the risk higher than I wanted to accept for an accident to happen. It was the same conditions that messed up the hoe with the stabilizer about a month earlier because I waited for the mud to dry before moving it.

AKfish · Mar 2, 2013

Gale Hawkins said:
OK I can see that happening.

My DA move was just the opposite. I had the hoe swung to the side and under the stress of working my way out of being stuck I for some unknown reason raised the stabilizer on that same side and hit the hydraulic fitting that goes into a steel line and cracked it where the fitting was attached to the steel line. After having to fix that fine mess I expect I will never be tired enough to forget and do that again.

After that late one evening I was so proud of myself. I was moving the dirt from the same place where I got stuck cleaning out a ditch and messed up the hydraulic fitting with the stabilizer. I was going to have to use the truck lights to make one more load and after telling the kids we were going to make one more trip I just shut off the truck and got out. They wanted to know what was wrong. I told them we were through for the day and they like to have freaked out.

A feeling just came over me that I was pushing too hard being so tired and hungry and that adding in the low lighting condition just made the risk higher than I wanted to accept for an accident to happen. It was the same conditions that messed up the hoe with the stabilizer about a month earlier because I waited for the mud to dry before moving it.

It is amazing how the work and sweat (and $$) of having to deal with one's own fubar's will "make you" turn that switch off and trudge back to the house!!! Pushin' that extra foot... or inch is is often better done with a clearer head the next day!

AKfish

AKfish · Mar 2, 2013

Stopped by the shed where the 110 is parked after collecting the chicken eggs and replacing some straw in their egg-boxes. Haven't really moved it much during the past 2 winters. The cab tractor has been getting most of the snow work!

Nonetheless, I looked the boom and dipperstick over to make a mental comparison to mechatgsk's and DocDryden's backhoe's. First off, the plate thickness along the boom arm and dipperstick arm face is only 1/4" - not 1/2" - my bad... memory!

And, my hoe does NOT have the wear plate along the bottom of the dipperstick - like mechatgsk's machine. I have a couple of paint nicks where the back of the thumb has made contact with the dipper but no significant damage.

Of course, the curled over edge on the boom arm from the stabilizer foot is still there...

AKfish

DocDryden · Mar 3, 2013

Well as you can see in photo #1 it was not the Thumb, or the bucket teeth photo # 2.
Just as Akfish said it was the stabilizer foot. Photos # 3, 4, 5, I could not sleep last night thinking about this. My hats off to you Akfish you were right. I never would have thought it was the stabilizer foot. Now I know to be careful when I swing that boom with the stabilizers up. And as far the contact stop plate, I can live without it.. Just a note my previous tractor was a Ferguson TO-20 so this 110 is a BIG step up for me. THANKS to ALL

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murphy1244 · Mar 3, 2013

Holy Mackerel Batman, Them darn stabes! Good job Fish.

treetrimmer01 · Mar 4, 2013

Doc
Just a quick note about your thumb, yes it needs the stop welded on the boom.
Retract your thumb all the way up then with your hand push up on it and watch your cylinder. You will see that it is trying to push the ram in more, and it is already all the way in. The weld on stop is there to protect your cylinder on the ram. Curl your bucket up carefully and it will contact the thumb and push the thumb up some more which will put pressure on the thumb cyl ram.
Ihope this helps
Treetrimmer01