110 TLB vs 4x20/485BH

[skidoo]

Thanks for the input. That is the kind of info I need. I'd like to hear from others as well.

Well, I get to demo a 110 on Monday. Any input on stuff I should look for or try?

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

So far the responses have been spot on. The 110 frame is heavier than 4000 series machines. I've compared them both side by side. The loaders on the 4000 are a joke compared to the 110. But I can see the hp advantage to the 4000 over the 110. If ground engagement is the majority of your work the 4000 has the advantage. But for my money and work the 110 wins hands down. The 448 hoe is nice but no match for the 110 hoe. The lack of tilt steering wheel is the only feature I really miss on the 110. Ak I agree with you on the cab, the 4000's cabs sales would take a big hit.

Matt T.

 

[skidoo]

I am looking to re-arrange the lay of some of my terrain. Attachments I will likely use it with is a rock bucket, sickle mower, box blade, & rake. I may also use it for a PTO generator, and/or wood chipper.

I also have stumps to remove at times and clear brush. I need to dig up and re-do a paved area behind the house, and perhaps prep an area for a shop or large garage. Also, I intend to dig and lay a lot of irrigation lines.

I have about 16 acres with a wide variety of terrain and vegetation/forest as opposed to a large acreage of flat cropland.

What kind of ground engagement equipment would I need that would make more sense for a 4520 or 4720 instead? I am thinking this is less significant for my uses. But, my perception may not be so clear.

For the above, I am leaning towards the 110 TLB. What do you think?

 

[ME83]

Just so you guys know, someone must make a cab for the 110. I have been looking at them too and a used dealer near me has a 110 with a cab. I have not gone to look at it, I personally don't like cabs.

2004 DEERE 110 Loader Backhoe For Sale At MachineryTrader.com

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

I would say the 110, since your not running anything too crazy. The rock bucket on the 110 loader will be a better fit. I find on my 3320 using my grapple like a rock bucket really makes the loader move around. Since the loader is HD on the 110 that won't be an issue. The 110 will run a good 6" salsco chipper with hydro feed no problem. Most folks use anything larger as firewood. The 110 will pull an 84" box blade in NE soil so I wouldn't be concerned. I can't speak on a pto genny but I do think there a complete waste of time. There expensive an why would you want to run up hours on the tractor when you can buy a stand alone lp version for a few grand.

Matt T.

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

ME, mclauren makes a nice hard cab for the 110. I believe there over 8k. Ak and I meant a factory cab.

Matt T.

 

[AKfish]

Let's see... ground engagement implements that would make more sense with the 45-4720 machines -- how 'bout;

A Big rototiller; say 84".

Big HD rotory mower; >6' in heavy grass or shrubs.

Disc mower or pull-type MoCo (although you'd want the new versions with 60 and 66hp).

Big disc or plow; say 8'-12' pull-type or 7'-3pt mount and/or a 3 bottom x 14" or maybe 16" plow.

And if you're doing any raking or tedding; the auto cruise feature makes them the heads up choice over the 110 and they'll sure pull some WIDE ones!

I'm sure that with a bit more thought you might come up with some additional field-work projects that the green machines would excel at but these are a good start.

AKfish

 

[skidoo]

Let's see... ground engagement implements that would make more sense with the 45-4720 machines -- how 'bout;

A Big rototiller; say 84".

Big HD rotory mower; >6' in heavy grass or shrubs.

Disc mower or pull-type MoCo (although you'd want the new versions with 60 and 66hp).

Big disc or plow; say 8'-12' pull-type or 7'-3pt mount and/or a 3 bottom x 14" or maybe 16" plow.

And if you're doing any raking or tedding; the auto cruise feature makes them the heads up choice over the 110 and they'll sure pull some WIDE ones!

I'm sure that with a bit more thought you might come up with some additional field-work projects that the green machines would excel at but these are a good start.

AKfish

Great! I'm not looking for much of the above. I have a 36" tiller for a toro garden tractor that does a garden fine. I wouldn't mind having one for my 2520 or new tractor, say 48 to 60". Wow, I can't imagine using an 84".model. I have an Lx4 that works fine with the 2520, so I really don't need bigger there. My mowing looks to be covered except for a sickle mower for the slope interfaces. I wouldn't mind getting a disk or plow someday, but it doesn't need to be more than a 1 or 2 bottom. So, with all that, it looks like the 110 is where I should be leaning.

Other considerations are stability on the slopes. How well does the 110 maneuver over uneven ground compared to a 4x20 model? I think the 4x20 models can have a wider stance, I'm not sure. If so, the real question then is the 110 stance wide enough? Should I insist on filled tires? My 2520 struggles going up a slope with the extra weight. Should I expect the 110 to struggle as well with filled tires?

One will be delivered tomorrow for a demo! It has been raining for days now, and I hate to get a new demo machine all muddy. So, I'm not sure what I am going to do with it other than drive it around on various slopes... Maybe it can dry out by then.

 

[AKfish]

Good luck with those R4's in mud and slippery grass on slopes... (you might already have 'em on your 2520)!

The 110's are 8 ply (I think the 4x20's have 6 ply R4's) and they're really hard, stiff and slick in mud and snow. They're just shy of runnin' on steel wheels!

My dealer put me onto some rear wheel spacers used on the larger Bobcat skid-steers - they're only 2" per side but I can put chains on now that will clear the rear fenders.

The 4x20's have the same sized R4's (front and back) as the 110 and the rims are 2 positions only; so the footprint width of the tractors should be the same. I don't know if they're the same length, though. You'd have to go with R1's to get the 8-position rims and a wider footprint.

If you're really considering a 110 -- get ALL the hydraulic options -- you won't regret it! And the thumb on the hoe --- it's indepensible - IMO.

Have fun.

AKfish

 

[JiminGa]

not to get off track here, but have you considered a miniexcavator? since you already have the 2520 with fel, seems to me you really are just looking for a hoe, and a miniex will out dig any thing