110tlb new vs. used or 4120?

AKfish · Jul 9, 2008

One on THE main reasons I went with the 110 was the ability to use 3pt implements --- including mowers. At some point (after the wife gets her riding mower..) I'd like to get a 7' flail mower.

The electric PTO is the cat's pajamas after using the manual shifting PTO on my last tractor! That pretty yellow nob has mower written all over it!!!

Just finished ripping, tilling, fertilizing and roller packing 2 horse pastures in the past couple weeks (nice fuzzy green right now).

But -- as other's have pointed out -- the machine is not your mid-PTO finish mower lawn tractor. It's too heavy and hurkey!

The hoe comes off in 2 minutes and back on in the same amount of time. It's a much easier process than my older 8A hoe that had the 4-pt sub-frame mount.

I use the 110 in the fields the same way my neighbor uses her 4320. Drop the bucket, grab the 3pt implement and go (course the top n tilt is a better way to get hooked up, too). The visibility and turning radius are nearly identical. Sure do like that 4320 cruise control, though...

As art and Curly have mentioned -- get the skidplate. Very important item!

Best of luck.

AKfish

Rmawhinney · Jul 9, 2008

Man you guys are helpful! Skid plate can be added in the field right? cruise cannot be added period right? I can imagine cruise would be nice but im sure i can manage

Thanks guys

AKfish · Jul 10, 2008

Yep, you can put the skid pan on yourself -- it would be a handful, though. It's 1/4" steel and about 3'x4' with a tapered front with sides and likely 250lbs. It'd leave a mark.... if it fell on ya!

Nope, on the cruise control. But, the only time you'll really want it is when you're runnin' a tiller in a large field or mowin' a pretty big field, etc. Loader work, snow removal, blading the driveway; won't miss the cruise at all.

One other aspect to consider - and Curly mentioned this - the weight balance of the machine when you're using other attachments. The owner's manual illustrates that the machine is designed such that 75% of the weight is on the rear axle and the remaining 25% is on the front end. That's with the hoe attached; and that's the basis for the recommendation that a rear implement be used with added weight to achieve an additional 1,250lbs with the hoe removed.

When I use a 3pt attachment; I drop the HD bucket (with edge) to shed 500lbs off the front end. But, with everything but the tiller (~700lbs) the machine is still light on the back end (skid plate helps here, though). So, I'm getting a set of hub extensions (Unverferth) and seriously considering filling the tires up to the axle (1/2 full), too.

AKfish

Rmawhinney · Jul 10, 2008

thanks great info how much would that cost ya to get the extensions and tires filled? ak you must move snow with yours what do you think of it for that use? anyone use the skid steer snow plow? Hopefully gamble will give me a good enough deal on that 110 so i can get all this stuff done

thanks guys

gamble77 · Jul 10, 2008

I second on the skid plate!! We put one on AK's machine and I sold two to other customers who came in and saw it on his!!

Rmawhinney · Jul 10, 2008

just trying to weigh out if i need the seventh function on the backhoe or not. obviously like the ability to put a thumb on if im going to pull stumps and move rocks. but what else could i be missing out on if i dont have those hydraulic lines?

gamble77 · Jul 10, 2008

well, as they say...there is more than one way to skin a cat...if you purchase a 110TLB with the 3rd function on the loader you can mount the hyd. thumb and operate it off the 3rd function on the loader, not as quickly obviously as with the foot control, but it can be done.

Rmawhinney · Jul 10, 2008

ya between that and the fixed thumb like you mentioned im sure i can get what i need acomplished. what about a 4in1 or a graple on the bucket would that help me with moving rocks very much? seams like a graple would do more than a 4in1.

CurlyDave · Jul 11, 2008

I have a dedicated rock bucket, which IMHO is much better than a grapple added to a standard bucket. The reason is visibility. The dedicated rock bucked is skeletonized, so I can see through it and tell exactly how I am grasping a rock.

To me, there are two big advantages of a hydraulic thumb over a fixed mechanical one, even if it is adjustable.

1. The first is precision. In a relatively short time I have learned how to pick up even very large rocks without moving them at all on the ground. And, if I roll them around a little on the ground, I can set them down in exactly the orientation I want. This makes building retaining walls and other rock structure very easy. It also makes it much easier to pick up decorative rocks without scarring them.

2. The second advantage of a hydraulic thumb is safety. A mechanical thumb needs to be adjusted manually, and you need to dismount and walk over to it. Every place I have used the thumb is broken ground with insecure footing, just asking for a fall.

AKfish · Jul 11, 2008

I had a mechanical thumb on my last hoe. It's a whole different world with a hydraulic unit!
If you EVEN think that a thumb would be a necessary tool on your machine - steal the money from your wife and buy it!!
You won't regret it... and the next guy that buys your tractor will sure appreciate it too!

I use it to load logs, stumps and rocks on my trailer. And I can put 'em just where I want 'em and ever so gently put 'em in place there, too.

After 90 hours on my 110 -- the root grapple, forks, and thumb were more useful than I initially expected.

The top n tilt is not as much an asset as I expected... If I had it to do over I would still get every hydraulic option available and stick with the standard 3pt. Then I'd get my hands on a CCM hydraulic top link.

If you've got lot's of rocks and they're all different sizes -- Curly's got the solution -- the dedicated rock bucket. I think Frontier and Worksite Pro (JD website) both offer a rock bucket.

The thumb works best on bigger rocks and is too inefficient on small stuff.

My dealer has put me onto a much cheaper solution to the Unverferth hub extensions. They gave me a hub extension that fits a Bobcat skid steer. Just got it home today. Everything measures out very, very close (within a 1/16th) so I gonna take the wheel off and see if it will bolt up, tomorrow.

I'll let you know.

AKfish