12' Disc NEED HELP

[marksmu]

I purchased this disc second hand from a guy out in the country who said it was John Deere 330...it was recently acid washed to clean up the rust, and then repainted...its got new tires and a new cylinder...one problem though it has a few broken discs on it. I called up a few JD dealers for the parts, and they said the discs should 22-24" on a 330. These are clearly 17-18" discs. So I sent him a picture of it, and he doesnt even think this is a John Deere Disc.

The plate that is in the pictures is just a farm supply co sticker, and there are no existing markings anywhere else on it.

So, long story short - can ANYONE identify what brand and model this disc actually is? I need replacement parts and want to get the correct ones.

Thanks in advance!

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I can't help out on verifying the manufacturer, but those notched disks look like they are worn out to me. Would it be possible that the disks are all worn down and you should have 22-24 inch blades on there? Agri Supply is a good place to get disk parts. You could take apart one of the gangs that need new disks anyway and visually verify size and type of axle so that you could be sure of ordering parts that will fit. If the blades are truly that warn down, when you remove a disk blade, you should be able to see how thick the metal is. Most 22-24 inch blades will be about 3/16" thick and I think that an 18" blade would only be 1/8" thick. Check out Agri Supply. Notched Disc Harrow Blades Available at Agri Supply - Agri Supply They should be able to help you out with the parts that you need.

Good luck

 

[JoeinTX]

Well, marksmu, you may have been had...:{

The only real JD "330" disc plow I can find is a large folding disc...http://www.tractorhouse.com/listings/detail.aspx?OHID=5377914&GUID=dcf7b34b870c4b009995e442bc00f81c

If there's another "330" J.D. disc plow model, maybe earlier model, I would tend to think not. It could still be a John Deere disc (of a different model) but even if not that doesn't make it any less of a tool......in fact it looks pretty nice. Have you checked the disc gang axles/bumper spacers/etc. for any markings? There might be something there to give a clue if they are indeed the originals.

As for the discs, there looks to be quite a mish-mash hodgepodge mix of 18" regular round discs and old, worn out notched discs that are now around 18" but originally 20" or 22". Or at least that's how they appear and the plow looks like it could easily handle bigger discs than those on it.

You can get replacement disc/gang parts from a number of suppliers if you the measurements....don't have to be from the original OEM.

http://www.agrisupply.com/notched-disc-harrow-blades/c/4500010/c2c/sc/......etc.


If you get it figured out let us know.

 

[JoeinTX]

Dang, MVR, I began to reply to mark's original post....did some web research and took a while replying...........and we posted almost the very same thing!?!?!


We're either both right or both wrong.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Dang, MVR, I began to reply to mark's original post....did some web research and took a while replying...........and we posted almost the very same thing!?!?!


We're either both right or both wrong.

I'm going to go with that we are both right. At least we were thinking along the same lines. Is that good? That doesn't happen to me very often.

 

[marksmu]

I am concerned about putting larger discs on this thing, b/c the length of drops that hold the bearings, do not have alot of clearance from the frame as it is. If you look, there is maybe 3 inches or so right now between the discs and the frame. It may have just been repaired with alot of extra parts laying around.

I do not think it is John Deere at all though, judging from the 1000 discs I looked through at Tractorhouse the other day.

At any rate, I reckon Im just gonna have to take the gangs apart, and do some measurements to make sure I get the right parts.

 

[cityguy]

Just looking at it, not sure it is a JD. From what I remember most of the smaller disks from JD had the leveling screw half way down the tongue. Doesn't mean its not a good disk, JD did not have the only good disks.

If the blades are worn - you probably cannot just replace individual blades, with new ones to spec - due to the size difference.

Check the size of the axle, measure the existing blades and buy what will fit the axle and match up with the size of the others.

 

[flusher]

I purchased this disc second hand from a guy out in the country who said it was John Deere 330...it was recently acid washed to clean up the rust, and then repainted...its got new tires and a new cylinder...one problem though it has a few broken discs on it. I called up a few JD dealers for the parts, and they said the discs should 22-24" on a 330. These are clearly 17-18" discs. So I sent him a picture of it, and he doesnt even think this is a John Deere Disc.

The plate that is in the pictures is just a farm supply co sticker, and there are no existing markings anywhere else on it.

So, long story short - can ANYONE identify what brand and model this disc actually is? I need replacement parts and want to get the correct ones.

Thanks in advance!

Nice disc. Hope you didn't pay "JD prices" for a non-JD implement.

If it were mine, I'd give it a test drive and see how it performs.
Next I'd check the diameter of the end disc on each gang to determine where the wear is occuring. Then replace the worn discs and go.

That's what I did with an old 7-ft Towner offset pull disc that one of my neighbors gave me a few years ago. Five of the 20 blades were worn. Got the 20" dia replacement blades from Ag Supply ($10 each) along with a new axle bar ($15) and end nut. Now I have a good working disc with an investment of less than $100.

 

[JerryK]

You should be able to tell if it is a JD unit by checking out the bolt heads. I don't know about the newer stuff, but I have never seen a JD tractor/implement that wasn't put together with bolts with 'JD' stamped in the bolt head. Official, John Deere bolts, that would be a big clue..... [ we don't pay the big bucks for just the green paint ]

 

[marksmu]

Didnt pay much at all. It was pretty cheap (though not free). The new JD, or Frontier version of this disc they make is $12,000....I paid $1250 for it b/c it has new tires and a new cylinder. There are a few more abnormalities...I had expected a square axle where the disc blades are, but the axle is Round all the way through. It appears that the spacers are supposed to be tightened so tight that the friction prevents them from spinning freely. The axles has not just been worn round, its round all the way, even in the open space inside the spacers.

The spacing was 7.5 inches between discs, I measure that this weekend, and the largest disc on it was 18" in diamater...there is just a cluster of random discs strewn all over this thing. Some notched, some round, some 18" some 16"

There are no marks on any bolt heads either. I checked for that. Most the bolts are pretty new, and the older ones have old been acid etched and repainted.

At any rate, Im taking a few of the blades I got off of it up to my farm supply dealer and Im going to see what he says.

I think everyone is right though...I dont think its JD, but it is in pretty condition overall. I just need to figure out what in the heck it is so I get it correct.