12' Disc NEED HELP

[marksmu]

Here are two pics of the axle taken apart. Sorry they arent too clear, the camera I have has decided to only taken fuzzy pics now.

As you can see the axle is round, and the spacers hold the thing together when tightened with the large nut on the ends.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Have you been able to find ANY part#'s/casting #'s on the disc? Some brands will have a common prefix or suffix on their part #'s. (as an example, older Massey Ferguson #'s generally end in M1 or M2)


That's definately NOT a Deere OR IH disc. I'm thinking it's from a short line manufacturer and not one of the major full line brands. Relatively light, bolted frame... Looks to be in good condition though.

 

[marksmu]

I cannot find any markings on it whatsoever. The guy that I got it from had acid etched the whole thing and blasted it or sanded it before priming and repainting.

It is a light duy finishing disc (or seedbed prep) though for sure. It weighs 3400 lbs, but it does not have alot of cut in it. I only broke 3 discs on it, but I wanted to get notched discs to get more penetration.

I dont care so much WHO made it, as long as I know Im not going to tear it up with new blades, oh ya and what type of blade, and size...if if your looking at teh pictures you can see there is about 3 inches of clearance between the frame and the discs. Im thinking I might be able to get 20in blades

Thanks!

 

[4720 OWNER]

2 cents. Looks a lot like a ferguson i used this spring.

Can you weld the hole in the old discs and present the significant other with a 'new' set of serving dishes? Hang them as wind chimes?

 

[marksmu]

Last couple photos Ive got. These are the blades I took off. The axle is round. The blades appear to be 1.5" centers, varying between round and square with the points.

I have no idea whatsoever which set of blades I am supposed to get. As you can see the 1.5" is uniform, but the type and everything else is different.

Do those spacers between the discs actually tighten down enough to hold these things from spinning freely on the axle?

The concavity appears to be 2" on the round discs.

Can anyone tell me how this is supposed to be, and whether or not something is not right here?

I just want to get some new discs, and have this thing cut nicely.

Thanks!

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Also rule out Ferguson/Massey Harris/Massey Ferguson. I've been through machinery brochures from all three back to the 1940's and no disc like that'n!

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Do those spacers between the discs actually tighten down enough to hold these things from spinning freely on the axle?

Thanks!

When you tighten them down with a 1" impact, and then tighten them just a tad bit more with a 6' cheater bar, that should get you about 2000lbs of torque. That should be plenty tight so as the disks will not spin at all, let alone freely.

 

[marksmu]

Alright, well I think Ive got it. The 1.5" center seems to be way too large for this disc. I couldnt even find a new disc blade with a 1.5 center axle.

Looking at the pics, I can see that each disc has alot of space around the axles. So Ive decided to go with an 18" Notched front discs with 1 1/8" round center,

18 4.5MM Notched Disc Harrow Blade - Agri Supply

Im going to replace the front gangs with these, and then reuse the best circular blades on the back...they are all about 17-18 inches, so I reckon it oughta work alright.

Anyone see any problems with that?

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Alright, well I think Ive got it. The 1.5" center seems to be way too large for this disc. I couldnt even find a new disc blade with a 1.5 center axle.

Looking at the pics, I can see that each disc has alot of space around the axles. So Ive decided to go with an 18" Notched front discs with 1 1/8" round center,

18 4.5MM Notched Disc Harrow Blade - Agri Supply

Im going to replace the front gangs with these, and then reuse the best circular blades on the back...they are all about 17-18 inches, so I reckon it oughta work alright.

Anyone see any problems with that?

I've never seen a disc of that size with anything but 1" or 1-1/8" axles. So you're on the right track.

Often times, 1-1/8" SQUARE axle disc blades will have an 8-point star shaped center hole that will also work on a ROUND axle. They can be a little confusing.

What you're talking about doing, putting new blades on the front and the better used ones on the rear is a common practice.

If you get down to picking from a few odd sized disc blades for the rear gangs, put smaller ones at the extreme outside ends of each gang. That actually HELPS with leveling. It somewhat eliminates the "furrow" that the outer disc can leave.

When you re-assemble, tighten the gang bolt (axle) as tight as you can possibly get it. After a bit of use, go back and re-tighten. That creates an integral strength throughout the axle, spools, and disc's. With the axle loose, you stand a MUCH greater chance of breaking disc blades. (Not to mention "spontanious disassembly" while in the field )

 

[Gizmo36]

That is a John Deere Disc it is and A&W is what they call it I think. a friend of mind has one, he is in a rest home , he has had it from the early 50,s . I think that is a 332. They made the AW -AWR-AWRS-AWS They were made from the 40's to the early 80's .