14x20 skid shed build

[buckeyefarmer]

Why was flooring not put down before the walls, and bottom and top plates used on the walls?

 

[hawkeye08]

This past fall we started into a skid shed but never got it completed before snow set it. Its now being worked on again and thought someone might care to see it. This is to store implements in over the summer and have 10ft roll-up door on it. Its built on three 6x6's and the floor stringers are 2x8s treated. The last photo is of an earlier shed built since i don't get many photos of this one but its pretty much the same.

I need to build one, do you plans? Are the roof trusses purchased or did you build them?

 

[ArlyA]

The wall studs-floor-rafters were assembled with the plates mentioned earlier on top of the 6x6's and squared, bolted together and last lifted up. Doing that was a 2 man operation to do. These square frames are incredibly strong from side forces and will keep your shed square.

Why was flooring not put down before the walls, and bottom and top plates used on the walls?

 

[newbury]

Yeah, PT plywood sucks, it really does. Lots of voids too. I once cut up a sheet of PT plywood into gusset plates for some roof trusses on a boat house, and the amount of voids in the plywood really disappointed me (I ended up throwing out all the gussets and went with galvanized nailer plates instead).
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It could be different sources of PT plywood. I've been building stuff with 1/2 and 3/4 PT plywood for years. About two years ago I got a batch from Lowes that the top sheet delaminated after a few weeks outside and the voids were amazing. I've never had PT that bad before. I've got boxes and things I've built from much older PT that has seen the weather for 10 years with no problem.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

nice build. Still looks cold up there. Burrr.

I see you got your doggie keeping guard for you. Good to have a great helper like that.

 

[EddieWalker]

Never seen framing done like this. I can see how you are going to make up loss of strength at the bottom of your studs by relying on the skids under your joists with the plywood. For a shed, that might work. I would have gone with something bigger then 3/4 inch plywood for as much strength as I could get. 1 1/4 tongue and groove with a lot of glue holding it in place.

Are you going to add plywood to the ceiling to make up for the loss of strength by not using top plates?

I'm always a big fan of alternative building methods. I love seeing new ideas and figuring out how they work, and how they are better then traditional methods.

 

[quicksandfarmer]

Never seen framing done like this. I can see how you are going to make up loss of strength at the bottom of your studs by relying on the skids under your joists with the plywood. For a shed, that might work.

This is how post and beam buildings were constructed for centuries before dimensional lumber became available. The assembly of a floor beam, two wall posts and two rafters is called a "bent." The bents would all be assembled on the ground and then stood up and tied together. There are still a lot of buildings in this part of the country that were made that way.

 

[mike69440]

Re: 14x20 skid shed build; Strongties?

Nice use of metal and wood.

Mudsupply.com - Specialty Construction Products

Anyone have a better source?

 

[EddieWalker]

This is how post and beam buildings were constructed for centuries before dimensional lumber became available. The assembly of a floor beam, two wall posts and two rafters is called a "bent." The bents would all be assembled on the ground and then stood up and tied together. There are still a lot of buildings in this part of the country that were made that way.

No. Post and beam gains it's strength from the posts being locked into the earth. This gives is a significant amount of strength that is lost when the studs of the wall are sitting on top of a foundation. To lock the studs into place, sheeting, or diagonal bracing is required to stop the framing from 'racking' and wanting to fall over a like a deck of cards. They did good with the OSB, but it was never meant to replace the strength of bottom and top plates. The L shape steel brackets are nice looking, but there strength is in just one direction.

The only way I can see making up for the lack of the top plates is using OSB or plywood on the ceiling.

 

[MFWD]

Hello,
I think your job looks great, but I have the same question as one of the other viewers, why didn't you just use normal construction techniques. Like putting the floor down, then a sole plate, studs and a double top plate. If you were worried about strength and racking when moving it, you could have put some let-in diagonal bracing in each wall. The only reason I say this is because I know how expensive those metal braces are, plus all the bolts........that was a lot of money for all those angles and bolts ! Just my 2 cents.......it does look good and will probably last many years !!!!!

MFWD