16 Bottom plow.

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Gizmo36

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I know two 12 are easier to pull then one 16 bottom plow .but is two 14 easier to pull then one 16 or the 16 the the easier.
 
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Easier? I'd put my money on the 1x16. In fact, I'd be surprised if a 2x12 is easier than 1x16.

Maybe someone who knows for sure can let us know. Where is FarmWithJunk?
 
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Gizmo36 said:
I know two 12 are easier to pull then one 16 bottom plow .but is two 14 easier to pull then one 16 or the 16 the the easier.


I believe when people refer to 2 - 12's pulling easier , the "Easier" is meaning that they pull straighter, and less likely to have your rows start getting a curve to them.

2 - 12's = 24 (more plow surface in the ground is going to require more HP to pull than) , 1 - 16 = 16

That is my take on "Easier" .

Dan
 
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A 16 bottom plow is not easy to pull at all. You need a lot of horses (at least 350) to move it :)
plow.h6.jpg


Actually, one 16" will pull easier then 2-12" as you are only moving 16" of soil compared to 24 inches with the 2-12 or 28 inches with a 2-14.
 
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Robert_in_NY said:
A 16 bottom plow is not easy to pull at all. You need a lot of horses (at least 350) to move it :)


Very funny!! I thought the same thing when I first read the title. But that picture says it all!!
 
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i thought that too...great picture. and i think that a 2 bottom 12 might be easier to pull than a 1 bottom 16. the leader 12 helps to break up some soil for the follower so that the follower is throwing into an empty spot....know what i mean?
 
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Plowing depth will also be a factor in which pulls easier. Typically, plow depth is half of the width. Even though you are moving less width with a 16" bottom than with 2-12s you are pulling two more inches on the bottom. I think it would depend on what type of soil. In heavy clay/loam the 16 might pull just as hard or harder at 8" vs. 2-12s at 6". Someone has probably tried it and knows the real answer.
 
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Gizmo36 said:
I know two 12 are easier to pull then one 16 bottom plow .but is two 14 easier to pull then one 16 or the 16 the the easier.

THREE X 12" pulls easier than TWO X 16" ....IF.... the 12" plow is working @ 6" deep, and 16" plow is working @ 8". ...... sometimes.

2 X 12" MIGHT pull easier than a single 16", but more'n likely, the 2-bottom will pull a bit harder.

Different brands of plows pull harder than others. Deere plows pull hard. Ford, Oliver, and Massey Ferguson plows pull easy. There are different styles of moldboards and shares.
 
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I don't remember Oliver plows pulling easy. The easiest pulling plow that we had was a Case and the International wasn't to bad either. I would have to agree that the Deere plows pulled very hard.
 
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deere755 said:
I don't remember Oliver plows pulling easy. The easiest pulling plow that we had was a Case and the International wasn't to bad either. I would have to agree that the Deere plows pulled very hard.

Back in my younger days dad would put me on an M Farmall with a 2 bottom Oliver trip plow that had 2-14's. Easiest pulling plow I've ever had the pleasure of working. Just aggervating when tripping on the ends of the furrows to raise and lower.
 
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Turbys_1700 said:
Back in my younger days dad would put me on an M Farmall with a 2 bottom Oliver trip plow that had 2-14's. Easiest pulling plow I've ever had the pleasure of working. Just aggervating when tripping on the ends of the furrows to raise and lower.


Do you mean trip "bottoms" or trip "hitch". Our neighbor pulled a 3X16 trip hitch plow with his Farmall 400. Everytime he would hit a big rock the hitch would trip, the plow would come unhitched and the hydraulic hoses would pull away from the tractor and fall, male coupler end first, into the dirt. Then he would have to back up, re-hitch the plow and plug the hydraulic hoses back in after first cleaning the dirt off.

A trip "bottom" plow is much easier. Just back up to reset it and go.

The old John Deere plows had a "spring" hitch that would stretch when an obstacle was hit. It had a cable attached to the hand clutch on the old JDs that would pull the clutch back and stop the tractor. That was before trip bottoms.
 
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Toolguy said:
Do you mean trip "bottoms" or trip "hitch". Our neighbor pulled a 3X16 trip hitch plow with his Farmall 400. Everytime he would hit a big rock the hitch would trip, the plow would come unhitched and the hydraulic hoses would pull away from the tractor and fall, male coupler end first, into the dirt. Then he would have to back up, re-hitch the plow and plug the hydraulic hoses back in after first cleaning the dirt off.

A trip "bottom" plow is much easier. Just back up to reset it and go.

The old John Deere plows had a "spring" hitch that would stretch when an obstacle was hit. It had a cable attached to the hand clutch on the old JDs that would pull the clutch back and stop the tractor. That was before trip bottoms.

I had the great misfortune of plowing as a kid without the aid of trip ANYTHING! We had 3-point plows with solid beams. Most of our fields are relatively small. That gives you a lot of plowing along fence-rows. 2 words.......Tree roots. I'd be rolling along, flippin' dirt and BAM! Sorta like an aircraft carrier arresting cable, except no shock absorber. It was chest into the steering wheel, even at 4 mph. I was about 15 when dad finally bought a set of Ford 101's with trip bottoms.
 
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Are you talking about raising and lowering the plow shares without the benefit of hydraulics Turby 1700?

One pulls on the rope to raise and pulls again to lower the shares. The plow is not a three point type and must be in forward motion to lift the shares.:D

That M should have handled at least one more bottom.:D
 
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Turbys_1700 said:
Back in my younger days dad would put me on an M Farmall with a 2 bottom Oliver trip plow that had 2-14's. Easiest pulling plow I've ever had the pleasure of working. Just aggervating when tripping on the ends of the furrows to raise and lower.

That was due to the M being rated for a three bottom plow.
 
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I think a wider furrow will turn the soil more completely over, two narrow furrows will be standing on the "edge" since the cross cut of the furrow will show that it has a squeare shape, whilst the wide furrow is rectangular and will fall over more easely, covering the grass and weeds better, making it easier to work the soil.
 
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i thought the turning action of the plow had everything to do with the shape of the moldboard. there were various shapes/curves for various soil condtions. (so you could get more or less flip out of them)
 
 

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