Hey guys, I got my 1725 4 months ago or so. I got about 30 hours on it and it seems to crank over a lot longer than it used to even in the cold. I got it in February and after a little glow plug cycle it started pretty quickly. Now it takes a lot more cranking than it used to. I’ve tried different glow plug times and it makes no difference. Is there anything I should look for? I asked my dealer and all I got was I can’t think of anything that would cause that. It always starts but if it’s something that might turn into a thing I wanna get on top of it. Thanks!
1725 takes a while to start
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Is this a new machine? Your 30 hours is all that's on it?
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The starter may be spinning more slowly than it was before. Pull the battery, charge it, and have it load tested. Before reinstalling clean battery terminals and cable ends. Reassemble and tighten securely. Follow ground lead to frame. Clean and tighten. Be sure starter mount bolts are tight as well as power cable to starter. With all this done if you still have problems consider taking the starter to a repair shop which can check out the starter.
It sounds the same as it did before but I can check the battery with a load test. I can put a jump pack on it too just for a test.
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When it does start, does it run as normal / new?
Is it turning over slower or just taking longer to fire?
How much longer is it taking to start?
Any smoke or rough running after / during starting?
Too many variables.....
Is it turning over slower or just taking longer to fire?
How much longer is it taking to start?
Any smoke or rough running after / during starting?
Too many variables.....
thepumpguysc
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Check the glow plugs.. might have 1 burnt out..
WranglerX
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I would use volt meter or test light to check if it is getting +12volts to glow plug buss bar first ... Check Fuse block to see if any fuses blown (see owners manual for fuse number) ....Then I would remove buss bar from glow plugs and use OHM meter to test continuity of each glow plug before going to far into this ... If all good then I would dive deeper into maybe issues with starter of battery or cables...
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Just remember the KISS principal. "Keep it simple stupid".... go one component at a time, recheck, move on to the next possible culprit.
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boy with 30hrs wold be surprised if actual plug damage. checking buss for voltage easy to do though.
pretty sure no fuse on that may be wrong.
don't suppose just crappy fuel in it?
pretty sure no fuse on that may be wrong.
don't suppose just crappy fuel in it?
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With such few hours on a new machine I sure would not do much before twisting the dealer arm a bit harder.
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I don't use glow plugs in warm weather, still starts up almost immediately.
Battery strength has a huge impact, whether the battery condition or charging system.
Does the amount of throttle affect starting?
Battery strength has a huge impact, whether the battery condition or charging system.
Does the amount of throttle affect starting?
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just a thought and is easy to do, if been in real dusty conditions check condition of air filter.
yeah I would do that also but would still do some visual inspections while waiting.
DMW
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Not just dust. Mice really like to nest in the area of the air intake. A high pitched whistle when the engine is running usually indicates a restriction in the air intake/filter.
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Been there done that... Put screen over air intake so it does not happen again...
Giving the benefit of the doubt to the OP, and assuming the difference in the starting is actual, I would agree with Dmacleo.
After verifying the intake air filter isn't compromised, the only thing else I can think of, that could realistically have changed enough to affect starting in 30 hours, would be an issue with the fuel.
It is beneficial to find a good quality source for your fuel. If you have farmers in your area, see if you can get it where they do.
After verifying the intake air filter isn't compromised, the only thing else I can think of, that could realistically have changed enough to affect starting in 30 hours, would be an issue with the fuel.
It is beneficial to find a good quality source for your fuel. If you have farmers in your area, see if you can get it where they do.
Hi guys sorry I haven’t gotten back on here. I took a video,actually two. One one day and one the next. For the first one I didn’t show the glow plug lite I forgot what side it was on and really wasn’t paying attention. I let the plugs cycle for quite a while as can be seen in the videos. I don’t know of this is normal for this tractor but I do remember it starting with less cranks.the fuel is from the same place I get for my diesel car.
How do you post videos on here?
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I am guessing here. My last battery lasted about a year from new. Previous battery was same brand/model lasted 7 years. Excessive use of the glow plugs in cold weather beat the crap out of it. I don't think I ran it long enough to fully recharge the battery during use. Put another new battery in it in February, still cold hearted, but easier to start. Above 50 Fahrenheit there has never been a need to use the glow plugs.
Put it on a charger, don't use the glow plugs and see how it starts. Give it a little bit of throttle. Not on idle, but not over 1/2.
daman1
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You need to post a video so we can see exactly how long it's cranking, a puff of black smoke at startup is normal
