JC-jetro
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I don't believe you have much air filtration/cleaner during that time due to level of present oil. Air has to peculate thru the oil before is sucked in to piston. The principle of operation is same as Middle Eastern Hooka.
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I had poured out the oil before taking the pic, so I could find out if this was considered nominal sludge or more.
IH3444
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Yea, that's a dirty bird there. Hasn't had any love for a while........Clean her good, and fill to mark with fresh, ummmmm 30w? I guess any new oil will do?
JC-jetro
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I had poured out the oil before taking the pic, so I could find out if this was considered nominal sludge or more.
Ok. Good. I work with environmental techs from time to time and they believe dirty filter does filter out better unless it is totally clogged. There is bit of truth to that. Oil bath filtration is as good as it gets with minimal cost and maintenance effort.
JC,
Red State
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"dirty filter does filter out better unless it is totally clogged" Makes a great deal of sense to me.
Sure would like to see more threads containing common sense and Keep-It-Simple-Sam posts. I'll go as far to say that one can do way too much in caring for tractors....especially machinery that is working just fine. I call this nit-pickin' and have even read articles here on TBN where seasoned contributors have suggested not fixing what isn't broken. I have been guilty of this and JC-Jetro has helped me many times to fix a problem or "let sleeping dogs lie" where I was simply over-analyzing a none-issue.
Also, many folks forget or fail to remedy problems through the process of elimination pertaining to (simple - complicated fixes). I have purchased tractors that the seller intended to pass on a problem that was really not a problem at all. In fact, the resolve was as simple as replacing a radiator cap that had loss of pressure due to a bad seal. Still, I question some of the ideas that I've implemented but when I discover that JC-Jetro has actually done the same thing, I feel much better about my 'improvements'. One such re-engineering that I performed was an additional screen over my intake during dusty operations. Another thing that both JC and I have done is an overflow containment. For the life of me, I don't know why they never made such a thing on the Ford 1700.
Wish I could post more often but reading here at TBN is always a thrill and I appreciate the forum and the friends to be made here.
Sure would like to see more threads containing common sense and Keep-It-Simple-Sam posts. I'll go as far to say that one can do way too much in caring for tractors....especially machinery that is working just fine. I call this nit-pickin' and have even read articles here on TBN where seasoned contributors have suggested not fixing what isn't broken. I have been guilty of this and JC-Jetro has helped me many times to fix a problem or "let sleeping dogs lie" where I was simply over-analyzing a none-issue.
Also, many folks forget or fail to remedy problems through the process of elimination pertaining to (simple - complicated fixes). I have purchased tractors that the seller intended to pass on a problem that was really not a problem at all. In fact, the resolve was as simple as replacing a radiator cap that had loss of pressure due to a bad seal. Still, I question some of the ideas that I've implemented but when I discover that JC-Jetro has actually done the same thing, I feel much better about my 'improvements'. One such re-engineering that I performed was an additional screen over my intake during dusty operations. Another thing that both JC and I have done is an overflow containment. For the life of me, I don't know why they never made such a thing on the Ford 1700.
Wish I could post more often but reading here at TBN is always a thrill and I appreciate the forum and the friends to be made here.
Red State
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Well, if only more engineers used the KISS principle when designing/developing (seldom perfecting) machinery and gadgets. When something breaks or is next to impossible to fix or get to on my stuff....I always start off with a snappy, unfriendly remark about engineers (much like when speaking of lawyers). HA!!!!
JC-jetro
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My technician group at one of out facilities made a plaque that read " Honorary Environmental Grunt" and presented to me when I gave them my weekly sermons about mechanical stuff. I very much took at as an honor. They always bash engineers but they consider me "part time of their own"!!
emphasizing " Part Time", he heSounds like something mine needs... coming in from brushhogging dense 5' weeds the other day, steam started coming out near the radiator. When I took a look, the usual layer of debris was on the radiator (I clean it before use) and a drain hose from the radiator was dripping and causing the steam. Removed the debris, took a 5 minute break petting the horses, started him back up and headed to the house. No problem.
I've used the tractor in the same stuff during mid-day heat (high 90's) for a longer period of time and this hasn't happened. Will check the coolant level again, it was full and clean when I bought it and unchanged when I'd checked it after the first couple of uses. Have got to install a new temp gauge. Wish it had a fuel gauge, too, because it's hard seeing inside the bleepin' tank.
KISS has always been my methodology and these forums my savior for the tractors I've had. Some forums can be a bit "snobbish," so I just go to a different group with the question.
Red State
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Sounds like something mine needs... coming in from brushhogging dense 5' weeds the other day, steam started coming out near the radiator. When I took a look, the usual layer of debris was on the radiator (I clean it before use) and a drain hose from the radiator was dripping and causing the steam. Removed the debris, took a 5 minute break petting the horses, started him back up and headed to the house. No problem.
I've used the tractor in the same stuff during mid-day heat (high 90's) for a longer period of time and this hasn't happened. Will check the coolant level again, it was full and clean when I bought it and unchanged when I'd checked it after the first couple of uses. Have got to install a new temp gauge. Wish it had a fuel gauge, too, because it's hard seeing inside the bleepin' tank.
KISS has always been my methodology and these forums my savior for the tractors I've had. Some forums can be a bit "snobbish," so I just go to a different group with the question.
YEP, some of those 1700 have too small of a radiator....mine is the larger one and at one time, steamed on hot days when using the bush-hog. Never when moving dirt (regardless of how many continuous hours). Another thing to look for is the cap. If I were you, I'd go ahead and replace it. If you want photos of my red-neck overflow, I'll try to get them to you. I'm not the old pro that JC-Jetro is but it worked. the only thing that concerns me is (IF) the engineers knew that an overflow and pressure capture would damage the engine somehow....I hope not but my contraption has not killed my lil' 1700 yet. KOW (knock on wood).