1916 5 ton electric truck

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It must be nice to have lots of money to throw at a hobby..... my buddy bought a Newell motorhome....insanely expensive. Than built a 60x120 shop to house that and his other hobbies. Now hes looking at a scissor lift so he can wash his motorhome. Mind you he now has to plan all vacations around Oklahoma so he can stop by Newall to have the issues with motorhome worked on. Its too complicated for local rv places to work on. Has 3 computers onboard to operate the stupid thing.....air controlled doors and slides, all that junk.
 
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If the rebuilt batteries get the same service life it could pencil out.

I'm sure on a larger order of historic significance it wouldn't hurt to ask for a qty discount...
 
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Themm are Edison batterys, and should have a thin layer of battery oil on top of fluid to minimize evaporation. Railroads were last major user of Edisons, had battery bunkers along track where electric was needed for signals. 2 man handcar wid trailer came along on schedule to either charge or swap out.

Other big use into 60s was telephone company and emergency lights in big buildings wid room of batterys in cellar. Big stockpile of new Edisons in Alaska on Adak Island. Dey gonna stay because cost to get out around $2500 a battery today.
Glass battery jars were most common for Edisons, today dey collectable to sit in living room.
40s vintage Yale electric forklifts and cargo cranes used glass jar Edisons for battery. Lasted into 80s wid individual cels bein bypassed till machine couldn't move any more.

On dat truck between battery and motor is a set of probably 2 pole starters linked together to adjust voltage goin to motor for speed control. Might even be setup for electric wheel braking depending on how truck was built. Very similar to DC electric crane. Big trick on 4 motors was getting dem all running together. Motors is probably wound wid cotton covered magnet wire like most motors of time. Good thing is der lot of information on line now.

Good oak available but not gonna be sawn in time period dat truck was built. Amishmen along NY/Pa border still cutting it and milling it. Getting to Texas gonna be de problem.
 
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Very cool....kind of like a 100 year old tesla. Wonder if this battery guy will start rebuilding old tesla batteries. Man, $18,000 for new batteries. Wow. But i will be following this post. Very interesting.

Wonder what each of those batteries weigh. They look huge

They weigh 500 LBS. each


[On dat truck between battery and motor is a set of probably 2 pole starters linked together to adjust voltage goin to motor for speed control. Might even be setup for electric wheel braking depending on how truck was built. Very similar to DC electric crane. Big trick on 4 motors was getting dem all running together. Motors is probably wound wid cotton covered magnet wire like most motors of time. Good thing is der lot of information on line now.]
here is a picture of the forward and reverse control set up the wheel below the steering wheel is how you make it go from slow to fast and reverse
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Good to have a low center of gravity...
 
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Here is something to think about during the time period when this truck and the others of the fleet 17 in all ranging from 1/2 ton newspaper transports to the 5 ton trucks there were even some of the 5 ton trucks that had trailers these also carried a complement of batteries and were 4 wheel drive as well and though they were rated at 5 tons they could safely carry 10 tons in the truck and 10 tons in the trailer they could run a full 10 hour shift on a charge unless carrying the really heavy loads like 10 tons of coal which would have required extensions to their side boards as well
Often the battery packs would be pulled out onto carts and replaced with a fresh charged pack. The front and rear axle / motor assemblies were symmetrical only a pair of cross links converted one into a ridged non steering axle and vice versa. the motors could develop 16 HP so that would mean a truck and trailer could develop 128 HP and could run at up to 8 MPH,all this back in the day when horse and wagon were still the chief form of cargo transportation through city streets. think of how many teams and wagons it could take to haul the same amount of cargo plus the care grooming feeding and noise of several teams of horses clomping on the pave cobbles of the streets of Pittsburgh not to mention the necessity of constantly cleaning up the droppings and stabling all of those horses.
these trucks small and large operated nearly silently through the wee hours of the mornings while people still slept through out the day as well.
Reportedly these things were nearly immune to getting stuck in snow obviously they would not fair well on deep muddy roads if the ruts were more than about a foot deep.
No petrol vehicles of the time could compete with them on a day in and day out basis, except maybe the smaller 1/2 to 1 1/2 ton varieties but for the most part none of them would have been 4 wheel drive either =, Even though Charles E. Cotta had patented his steam powered chain driven 4 wheel drive in 1900 and had built 4 by 1902
Electric 4x4 trucks ranging from 1 through 5 ton with 4 wheel steering capabilities date back to 1904 by the Couple Gear Freight Company of Grand Rapids, Michigan who by 1908 had made a hybrid with a 4 cylinder engine generator on board.
 
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Thing of pure beauty it is. Pretty dang good shape for its age too. Probably still some silver left on the stationary contacts too. Sure makes ya wish that truck could talk and tell its storys.

City of Rochester Library had electric truck to haul books around system more efficiently back in the teens. I've seen pictures of it. People tellin the library story where dey had pictures were amazed to know such as an electric truck could exist back den. Dey all had Degrees dey swiped off a thermometer.

Sort of wonder how much Bob LeTourneau borrowed from dat truck for his earth moving machines.
 
 
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