1963 Case 530CK Backhoe/Loader

[stans1]

It must be the leveling cylinder you mentioned. I just assumed there was the same cylinder arrangement on each side.

Thanks.

I think you are correct when referring to the older 530CK's. They had a different configuration on the loader portion; the lift cylinder for the arms and then the bucket dump cylinder, which had a direct connection between the arm and the bucket. Later 530CK renditions had a multiplier arm that pivoted from the arm and the trunnions of the dump cylinder. This had the effect of increasing breakout and prying force with the bucket.


As you can see from this photo, the two arms that connect with the trunnions about mid cylinder, those arms are not on earlier CK's. And you can see also in this photo the leveling cylinder that is almost vertical above the lift cylinder, Stan.

 

[stans1]

As I said earlier, here is a post on the rebuild of my 12" bucket. It had worked OK, but the bushings of course were worn and especially the pivot bore was really in bad shape. And as you all know, a new bucket is really cost prohibitive and used ones are sort of hard to find. This bucket had worked well for me, so I thought I would refurbish it and hopefully make it more functional. When I had cleaned it all up I found that the pivot bushings were not only worn but someone had tried to weld them in because the bore was so wallowed out that the bushing would not stay in place. The bucket flange that has the pivot bore in it is only 3/4" thick and not really wide enough to contain the pressure placed on it in the digging process. So the bushing was bound to fail.


In this shot you can see the new boss that I machined and tack welded to the bucket flange. I aligned it with the bore before tacking it with an internal sleeve that I also machined. That way when I made the new bushing it would be retained by twice the surface area as the original 3/4" flange, the new thickness would be 1 1/2" which I thought would stand a better chance of resisting the wear that a backhoe exerts.


Just a closer view of the new boss and pin washer to the side. I made larger washers to help retain the pin in place. this also gives you and idea of the final alignment. When you don't have a line boring tool you have to be inventive to still maintain the concentricity of the bore.


This is one of the many alignment bushings and devices I had to make to align bosses and bushings. I used 1" acme threaded rod stock to make the bushing puller-pusher. Regular all-thread was not nearly as manageable as the acme thread. It seemed to me that the amount of effort needed to turn the acme nut for pulling or pushing my bushings was about 1/3 that required to turn a 1" all-thread nut.


Here is one of the bushings in place and of course 2 times longer than the original bushing.


In the far side of the picture you can see the new bushing installed and in the nearer view, the interior surface of the bore about ready to have the bushing pressed in.


I took this one to show how the pressing device looks when it's being used and in position. As you can tell, it's very important to keep the bores in alignment and with this view the alignment bushing is on the right hand side with the acme threaded rod inserted in the bushing bore and then you can see on the left side that I am pushing the bushing into position using a piece of 1" bar and the acme nut on the right side, that way I'm not pulling the flanges together to install the bushing. On the far outboard side you will notice that the nut has been removed and the bushing pusher is partially out of the bore, that's because the bushing has already been pressed into place.


Just a closer look at the in place bushing and pushing mandrel.


Just one of the alignment bushing.


And of course; the finished bucket. Even though I've been using the hoe a bunch now, writing up this post brings back a flood of memories.

 

[jmc]

This backhoe was lucky to find you.

 

[mayorbob]

Yeah Bob,

That's a great bunch of pictures that you took of your machine! After looking at your pictures that you posted of your steering system, I don't recognize any of the parts on your tractor. Check your serial number and check it against the known years for Case industrial equipment. You might try this link and see if you can find anything helpful: http://home.microtech.com/mikef/530CK/gas.php

Hope this helps, Stan.

Stan: Checked & rechecked, & my serial number, 8197411, puts me right in the middle of 1962. Is there a difference between 530 CK and 530 SL? Mine is an "SL"...& you are right, nothing shows the single cylinder and steering shaft like I have. Any other suggestion as to where to look? Bob

 

[stans1]

Stan: Checked & rechecked, & my serial number, 8197411, puts me right in the middle of 1962. Is there a difference between 530 CK and 530 SL? Mine is an "SL"...& you are right, nothing shows the single cylinder and steering shaft like I have. Any other suggestion as to where to look? Bob

Bob, I did a little research tonight and found some interesting information on the 530CK at this site: jdemaris others,I have a few ? on a 53 backhoe - Case and David Brown Forum - Yesterday's Tractors A couple of the answers were good information about the whole series of the 530's including just tractors that were not configured as backhoes.

 

[mayorbob]

Stan: Thanks for the research. Interesting...shows me that I know what year my Case 530 is (1962) for sure, but what of my bucket, or backhoe. They do not fit the description I'm finding, nor do they fit my Service Manual. It describes a Bucket Loader 530, but I don't have the bucket leveling cylinder; ;

I'm still trying to find out what model Case 530 I have with the single steering hydraulic cylinder. Any information on that?

 

[stans1]

Hi Bob,
You know, after studying your particular machine, and looking at the loader set up, I don't see anything that looks like the earlier 530CK's that Case shows in their earlier literature........... For instance: the small links that attach to the loader arms on yours, which then link to both the dump cylinder and the upper loader arm is not something I've ever seen. Don't know if it's just an aftermarket configuration or some how a Case derivative. Have you talked with someone from Case or inquired at a Case dealership?

I've enclosed a picture that I found on the internet some time ago and saved, in the process of comparing all of the differences, in Case products during the start of my restore. I wanted pictures of any type and models that I could find. So, take a look at this one and I think you will see that the Case tractor for your year was completely different from the one you own:

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[mayorbob]

Hi Bob,
You know, after studying your particular machine, and looking at the loader set up, I don't see anything that looks like the earlier 530CK's that Case shows in their earlier literature........... For instance: the small links that attach to the loader arms on yours, which then link to both the dump cylinder and the upper loader arm is not something I've ever seen. Don't know if it's just an aftermarket configuration or some how a Case derivative. Have you talked with someone from Case or inquired at a Case dealership?

I've enclosed a picture that I found on the internet some time ago and saved, in the process of comparing all of the differences, in Case products during the start of my restore. I wanted pictures of any type and models that I could find. So, take a look at this one and I think you will see that the Case tractor for your year was completely different from the one you own:

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Sure do appreciate the information. Can you recommend a dealer to talk to. We have one in Sunnyside, WA, about 35 minutes away, but when I went there to find parts, they had no idea what I was talking about. The bucket configuration is close, but not the same. Since my bucket & backhoe work just fine, I'm not worried about them. I am trying to get the power steering working, and the transmission working. I am in the process of removing the hydraulic pumps to have them rebuilt, then see where I go from there. I had a dealer in Auburn, WA, tell me that I had a regular farm Case 530, not a "construction king" model, but nobody else has known anything about that. So I keep asking. thanks again for your help.

 

[stans1]

Stan: Thanks for the research. Interesting...shows me that I know what year my Case 530 is (1962) for sure, but what of my bucket, or backhoe. They do not fit the description I'm finding, nor do they fit my Service Manual. It describes a Bucket Loader 530, but I don't have the bucket leveling cylinderView attachment 511788; View attachment 511789; View attachment 511790

I'm still trying to find out what model Case 530 I have with the single steering hydraulic cylinder. Any information on that?

Say Bob,
I didn't have time to really study your pictures that you posted, showing your whole tractor and the loader. After a closer inspection I noticed several items that don't match anything that I have seen but would, I think, indicate someone fabricated that whole loader arm, hydraulic cylinder, link, and dump combination or at least combined different year parts.

Now if you study the main structural arms (the ones that attach to the tractor itself), then follow the vertical arm (the ones that are your hydraulic fluid reservoirs) and look closely at the top of the arm you can see where someone has welded flanges on both frames. These flanges are the pivot points to long bars that extend down to what appears to be cast links that pin to both bars then dump cylinders. I'm assuming this would give more leverage during material handling. Anyway, that was the first anomaly that caught my attention, then I was studying the loader arms themselves and noticed that the welded flanges for the pivot point of the lift cylinders are very similar to the arms on the later 530CK's, not the older 530CK's. I'm not saying that this isn't OEM, but in all of the older 530's I've only noticed that the dump cylinders connect directly from the loader arms to the bucket and no extended apparatus to the structural arms. Also, look at your pivot hole or bore in the loader arm, just below the lift cylinder flange and notice there is a bore for the connection of those cast links and pins, well, I don't think you would ever find that bore in the older arms. Take a look at the picture that I posted of that restored older Case 530CK in my earlier post and you will see that there are no holes in the loader arms because the dump cylinders pin to the flanges on the arms and down to the bucket.

Finally, Bob, I don't think you are going to find this configuration in a Case shop manual. I could be wrong but if it were me I'd be looking to do my own repairs and fabricating the things I would need to fix or to maintain it. And as far as the steering configuration I guess I would keep trying someone in you area that might have a handle on it. I'm sorry that I couldn't be of more help!
Stan.

 

[Dope]

Stan (et all): Here are some pictures of the steering setup on my '62 Case 530 backhoe. View attachment 511517 - Here is the lower steering shaft U-joint: View attachment 511518 - This is the upper U-joint: View attachment 511519 - Hydraulic cylinder (single): View attachment 511520 - Cylinder connected to right side: View attachment 511521 - Power steering pump (near as I can figure): View attachment 511522 - Power steering filter (I need to find proper filter or replace unit): View attachment 511523 I'm looking for any pictures, illustrations, pages from shop manual, etc. My manual shows the dual cylinder setup, which has no relationship to mine. Thanks. Bob

Hi everyone I bought a 1962 case 530ck and I can't find any parts for this type of steering assembly i have only found 1 repare manual that even shows this steering setup I would appreciate any help i can get finding parts
Thank you