199 hours is close enough!

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k0ua

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It is time for my 200 hour service on the DK35se Hydro tractor. I was at 199 so I figured that would do.
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Since on the 200 hour change the Hydro and Hydraulic filters need to be changed without changing any fluid I came up with the idea of putting a #6 machine screw into the vent plug opening to seal the system from getting any air into the tank to see if that would prevent fluid loss when I took the filters off. My only other experience with the Kioti was when I changed filters AND fluid at 50 hours. Of course I drained the fluid before I tackled the filters, so there was no fluid to leak out except what the filters themselves contained. If you will remember the hydraulic filter is vertical and contains maybe close to a quart of fluid, and the hydrostat filter is horizontal and contains about a cup. Here is a picture of the vent plug located on the rear of the tractor, and of course is also the fill port. note the small hole in the end of the crooked neck. That is where I stuck the screw to block the air ingress.
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So I changed the hydraulic filter first, and it spit out maybe 2 or 3 ounces of fluid into my catch pan maximum. Since it is vertical you can dump the filters contents at your leisure as long as you don't turn over the filter. I spent some time getting the new filter threaded, but no appreciable amount of fluid came out after the initial small splash. Did my idea work? I don't know, you tell me. Fluid loss was very minimal, and there was no need to hurry to get the new filter put back on. Those of you who did not plug your vent hole, tell me if fluid continues to flow out the connection pipe or not. I was not going to get up and remove the screw to find out:) The Hydro filter lost a few ounces of fluid, but the majority of it was what run out of the filter because it is horizontal. There was no leakage to speak of while fitting up the new filter. I took the time to wash the tractor. Grease the chassis, grease the loader, check all the wheel bolts/nuts. check all the loader mount bolts all tight this time. Of course changed the engine oil and its filter, the fuel filter was changed about 30 hours ago. I would have changed the air filter but the dealership gave me the wrong filter. I paid for the right filter, and the correct number was on the invoice, but the filter I got was not that number, and it fits a larger Kioti tractor. The coolant was changed about 30 hours ago so it is good to go for a while.

I cleaned and shined up the plastic parts with some "son of a gun" spray protector.
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Checked and refilled the hydraulic fluid level, and called it good. While I was at it I touch up painted the tractor and painted my ballast barrel inside and outIMG_20130922_150228_440.jpgIMG_20130922_150347_801.jpg

I tested everything out a bit and put it back in its "den"IMG_20130922_162320_254.jpg

It was a beautiful day for working outside.:)

James K0UA
 
   / 199 hours is close enough! #2  
Ready for another 200 hours of work.:applause:
 
   / 199 hours is close enough! #3  
My 200 hr filter change was a bit messier, so it was a good idea to plug the fill hole. Next time I will do that.
I didn't replace the air filter though, seems abit overkill to replace it even at 200 hours after cleaning it twice and not removing much dust at all.
Nice clean up job though, I should do a good wash too.
 
   / 199 hours is close enough! #4  
I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned by someone yet but a place called Filter Products Cooperation sells donaldson air filters like the DK series use for $19.04 each plus shipping of coarse, I purchased the fuel, hydro and oil filters from the local Kioti dealer and bought the air filter at FPC saving a $20 dollar bill for the 50 hour service. It is a exact match.

P822768

DONALDSON part number P822768
Part Number: P822768
Replaces Part Number: 88489
Manufacturer: DONALDSON

Description:
AIR PRMYRS
DONALDSON REPLACEMENT FOR
CARQUEST 88489

Your Price:
$19.04

Quantity to Order:
 
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I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned by someone yet but a place called Filter Products Cooperation sells donaldson air filters like the DK series use for $19.04 each plus shipping of coarse, I purchased the fuel, hydro and oil filters from the local Kioti dealer and bought the air filter at FPC saving a $20 dollar bill for the 50 hour service. It is a exact match.

P822768

DONALDSON part number P822768
Part Number: P822768
Replaces Part Number: 88489
Manufacturer: DONALDSON

Description:
AIR PRMYRS
DONALDSON REPLACEMENT FOR
CARQUEST 88489

Your Price:
$19.04

Quantity to Order:

Thanks for that post. I believe my original is a donaldson.
 
   / 199 hours is close enough! #6  
My pleasure K0ua, I believe they are located in Tuscan, AZ. Ship price for the Seattle area was $10.00 not bad considering the factory price.

Congrats on your 200 hour mark, If your hours are anything like the hours I've put on, They have all been a blast.
 
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My pleasure K0ua, I believe they are located in Tuscan, AZ. Ship price for the Seattle area was $10.00 not bad considering the factory price.

Congrats on your 200 hour mark, If your hours are anything like the hours I've put on, They have all been a blast.

They have been easy and fast too!:shocked:
 
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How many hours did you have on your bota before you traded it???

I am closing in on 500 now.

Ya know......if you still had that bota, that 199 would be more like 150, since the bota works that much harder and faster:laughing:
 
   / 199 hours is close enough! #11  
How many hours did you have on your bota before you traded it???

I am closing in on 500 now.

Ya know......if you still had that bota, that 199 would be more like 150, since the bota works that much harder and faster:laughing:



RUT ROW :laughing:
 
   / 199 hours is close enough! #12  
That Bota had the Jerky Sickness.
 
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How about this place. with free shipping if you order over $50.00. so if you order two of them you would be out about 53 bucks. Which is just a few dollars more than the dealer wants for one.


http://www.truckhelp.com/parts/donaldson-p822768
 
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How many hours did you have on your bota before you traded it???

I am closing in on 500 now.

Ya know......if you still had that bota, that 199 would be more like 150, since the bota works that much harder and faster:laughing:

yeaaaah. uh huh. My Kioti will outwork the L3400 any day of the week.. much larger bucket more weight, and besides the color is just a "richer" shade of orange anyway.:D the 'bota had about 128 I think on it. You come down here and I will let you play with the Kioti.. and you will throw rocks at your 'bota.:)
 
   / 199 hours is close enough! #15  
My L3400 will outwork that DK in my woods anyday of the week. It is soft, mucky, and tight. You added weight would only make you sink deeper, and you would have to take the long way around as my paths are barley wide enough for my L3400. :laughing: So I could make 2 trips to your 1 long trip, that is if you could even get to the area needing attention

Okay, I'll quit picking on kioti now:drink:
 
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The last 27 hours on the tractor was hauling several dump truck loads of fill from two neighbors houses to my house. the farthermost one was about 3/8 of a mile one way. I was darn glad I had the Larger bucket of the Kioti to get more each trip, and the bucket-loads were heavy too. It did very well on fuel, but it sure racked up the hours quick transporting. I use the old smaller Kubota bucket when I want more concentrated digging force. I got to use the cruise control, something I had never had any use for around here before as I rarely get on the road.

James K0UA
 
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Well it is all in fun guys.. Kubota and Kioti both make good tractors as do others. Use them reasonably and do proper maintenance and they will all do good work for you.

James K0UA
 
   / 199 hours is close enough! #18  
The last 27 hours on the tractor was hauling several dump truck loads of fill from two neighbors houses to my house. the farthermost one was about 3/8 of a mile one way. I was darn glad I had the Larger bucket of the Kioti to get more each trip, and the bucket-loads were heavy too. It did very well on fuel, but it sure racked up the hours quick transporting. I use the old smaller Kubota bucket when I want more concentrated digging force. I got to use the cruise control, something I had never had any use for around here before as I rarely get on the road.

James K0UA

Doing something like that would justify me firing up the backhoe with its huge bucket.

On short trips and in tight areas, the kubota is quicker. By far.

But for massive work........
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Ok today I went back to the dealer to exchange the air filter. Here is a picture of the Kioti part number tag.Kioti air filter part number.jpg

Of course what is inside of the box is a Donaldson filter, you can see the part number heredonaldson part number.jpg

and here is what the filter looks likeIMG_20130923_162104_204.jpg

And here is what they gave me for my trouble :) IMG_20130923_162151_036.jpg

James K0UA
 
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Any other long time Kioti owners care to comment about the screw in the air vent idea? Whether it really worked or that not much fluid would have come out anyway without it. I honestly don't know. But I do know I lost very little fluid, and did not have to hurry to get the new filters on. I do know this, the "tank" is air tight, because when I lowered the FEL boom before I took the screw out it blew air out the hole for several seconds. When you pump fluid into the cylinders, you suck air into that vent hole, and when you lower the cylinders pushing more fluid back into the tank because of the displacement of the rod, that air is expelled. out that vent hole. I never really thought about that much before.

James K0UA
 

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