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this is my boards are so informative.every1 has their own opions an reasons for what they do.i know this man that made his last payment on his farm when he was 85.he spent 70yrs growing an expanding his farm.then when he was 92 or 93 he bought some more land.
 
   / 1st payment done #22  
Happy New Year to all,


Good advice all around as if you have the working capital available its better to buy machinery outright and limit your debt load.


Now Ii have ot drag the original build Isuzu from out back and have it put on the lift to get the oil and filters changed and then to the fab shop to get the frame fixed so it will pass inspection. If it had not been exposed to salt for so many years it would be in better condition but repairs cost much less money to replace what ever needs to be repaired.

I am not about to scrap it as its still in good condition and needs work that I can afford to do now.

Of course if some one needs an OEM 4 wheel drive 1995 Isuzu with the 2.6 liter engine-

It has a slightly less than new radiator, fuel tank, fuel pump, catalytic converter, original wheels, replacement wheel bearings to change out the old ones. The 4 snow tires only have one season on them, the truck has 112,000
miles on it with no engine trouble or manual transmission trouble for the 13 years I had it on the road, it has the manual lock out hubs too. :)
 
   / 1st payment done #23  
I knew you would take my post as intended.:) Discussion and not argument between friends.:thumbsup:
I have to smile about my buying so many cars and so many tractors. I as you have had to watch the bottom line most of my life and still have to but........as with you there has to be some reason for saving here and there. it's so we can buy things we want and don't need and feel OK about it. Knowing we saved $7500 on the house financing that we had to have justifies a $12500 RTV that we want.:D I have always shopped and researched for the best price on those 130 cars and 12 Kubotas!!!:D:D
I have a not reasonable but still there phobia. I grew up in the 60's when cars were better, not. You had to keep a big screwdriver to jump the solinoid and a good spare tire and some water for vapor locks and always two big friends to help push. When a car nears 40000 miles I'm afraid to take it out of town. Not logical but it's still there.:D
I to look forward to your responses on this forum and respect your many years of tractor ownership that exceed mine by probably 5x. I know you know the farm side and the around the house use which is my use. I don't do farms and never have. We did have a small garden this past year and plan on another one next year but sure don't need a tractor for it.:D
HAPPY NEW YEAR, My Friend.:thumbsup:

I am 63, so I grew up with those old cars and wound up walking a lot and sure know what you mean.:)

Don't over estimate my knowledge or experience; always learning how much I don't know.

Happy New Years John.:thumbsup:
 
   / 1st payment done #24  
Happy New Year to all,


Good advice all around as if you have the working capital available its better to buy machinery outright and limit your debt load.


Now Ii have ot drag the original build Isuzu from out back and have it put on the lift to get the oil and filters changed and then to the fab shop to get the frame fixed so it will pass inspection. If it had not been exposed to salt for so many years it would be in better condition but repairs cost much less money to replace what ever needs to be repaired.

I am not about to scrap it as its still in good condition and needs work that I can afford to do now.

Of course if some one needs an OEM 4 wheel drive 1995 Isuzu with the 2.6 liter engine-

It has a slightly less than new radiator, fuel tank, fuel pump, catalytic converter, original wheels, replacement wheel bearings to change out the old ones. The 4 snow tires only have one season on them, the truck has 112,000
miles on it with no engine trouble or manual transmission trouble for the 13 years I had it on the road, it has the manual lock out hubs too. :)

Leon that sure is tempting.

When I was much younger I needed a work car and my brother took three Volkswagens he had at his shop and made one for me. It was red, gray and blue. After a little good natured ribbing by my fellow Officers, I took it to a Vocational Technical school and had them shoot it with what they had on hand. I learned later they would have beat some of the dents out; too late. I drove that thing for years; heck it may still be going somewhere.
 
   / 1st payment done #25  
Hello Larry happy New year,

Its still sitting out back until I borrow my brothers
winch monday to pull it from the back lot as the
fuel filter is plugged and I cannot crawl under it
to change it.


If the frame is still in good condition-

Once I get the frame welded and the brake and
clutch lines fixed its going back on the road as
I can still buy parts for it- I bought a new battery
fuel and air filter for it last week and its obviously
starved for fuel as it will start.

I ma just glad The chipmonks did no damage
other than eating at the air filter.

But-

All depends on whether it stays as a off the road
farm truck or I check my lottery tickets or both.

I do need new fenders a muffler and a new tail pipe

The gear box and transfer case would save someone a
fortune if it was used for a motorised logging winch
as the axles are still in excellent conditon.


Short of that stripping it for a generator build
for anybody it would be worth
the money as I have all new parts
and buzz box welders are
not that expensive to own.


leon
 
   / 1st payment done #26  
I say to each their own. If you don't have the money and can afford the payments then go for it. If you have the money and want to play the game of, can I make more money if I make payments then go for it. Of course if you want to borrow money in the future the downside could be too high of a debt load forcing you to pay it off. If you want the feeling of not having to pay each month then just buy it.

Each option has it's pluses and minuses. And everyone is in a different situation. What amazes me is when some who doesn't know you or your finances can say that you picked the wrong option. Add to it if you bought the tractor for a business or a farm.
 
   / 1st payment done #27  
What amazes me is when some who doesn't know you or your finances can say that you picked the wrong option.

Which is pretty much what I was thinking when I said:

There's no right or wrong answer. Each individual has his/her own reasons for the way they operate.

As John and Triple R state, they're opinions. Doesn't necessarily mean that we have to agree with all of 'em. Or any of them for that matter.
 
   / 1st payment done #28  
Hello Larry happy New year,

Its still sitting out back until I borrow my brothers
winch monday to pull it from the back lot as the
fuel filter is plugged and I cannot crawl under it
to change it.


If the frame is still in good condition-

Once I get the frame welded and the brake and
clutch lines fixed its going back on the road as
I can still buy parts for it- I bought a new battery
fuel and air filter for it last week and its obviously
starved for fuel as it will start.

I ma just glad The chipmonks did no damage
other than eating at the air filter.

But-

All depends on whether it stays as a off the road
farm truck or I check my lottery tickets or both.

I do need new fenders a muffler and a new tail pipe

The gear box and transfer case would save someone a
fortune if it was used for a motorised logging winch
as the axles are still in excellent conditon.


Short of that stripping it for a generator build
for anybody it would be worth
the money as I have all new parts
and buzz box welders are
not that expensive to own.


leon

Leon, I think you beat the heck out of me on getting the full use out of a vehicle.

I had a 1978 Datsun pickup that I had run into the ground after rebuilding the engine twice. My job required a reliable vehicle, so I reluctantly parked this one out on our farm were it sat for about five years. My niece's husband asked about buying it one day. I liked my niece so advised him against it, but if he wanted it he could have it. I will be darned if he didn't get that old truck running and drove it for several more years. Of course he was a mechanic and had a backup vehicle, but man you should have seen that thing before he got a hold of it.

My brother has an old Mazda pickup he fixed up for use around the farm, old vehicles seem to be able to last almost forever if you know how to work on them. I am not that good of a mechanic, so I have to bail at about 200k miles or so.
 
   / 1st payment done #29  
Absolutely terrible financial advice in the context of a no interest loan. A rank amateur will easily be able to earn 5% a year investing in any 4 star diversified mutual fund. If you take 25K cash on hand and spend it on a 25K tractor instead of investing it you will lose $6,250 unless the dealer gives you a $6,250 discount for paying cash. Sheesh, come on people, think.
 
   / 1st payment done #30  
A rank amateur will easily be able to earn 5% a year investing in any 4 star diversified mutual fund.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Blanket claims such as this are, how shall I put it, ........BS.

Depending on the time period under consideration, many 4 star funds have lost value during a year.

BTW, per post #13, I'm still waiting for you to provide your account records for the last 10 years in which you earned 15% or more each year.

And, since you can apparently always beat the market, please post your predictions for Dec 31, 2011 of the following:

S&P 500
DJIA
NASDAQ
the spot price of gold (you pick the market)
the spot price of silver (you pick the market)
the spot price of copper (you pick the market)

Steve
 
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