2 Acres, landscaping, and a tractor

   / 2 Acres, landscaping, and a tractor
  • Thread Starter
#11  
You know, it's funny. I never even really thought about a backhoe until I looked at the BX23. It's had me thinking ever since - mostly along the lines of wracking my brain to come up with one on a B-series in a BX budget ... I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be able to pull that off!

I didn't like 3 things about the BX: ground clearance, no position control, and relatively high engine speed for rated power. The Massey removes two of them - it's rated at 2600 and has position control. Has about the same clearance and capacities, though. The ground clearance on both still bothers me. I'm not sure I'm not over-weighting it as a consideration, though.

As much as I liked the M-F compared to the BX, I liked the Kubota dealership locally quite a bit. Big, active, immaculate, and clearly geared toward after-sale service. The dealer went over the parts network with me, talked about Kubota corporate support, product positioning, pricing and marketing policies, etc. Very open and up-front. Pricing was good too.

The M-F dealership was OK too, but just as clearly geared toward the ag market. Nothing wrong with that, of course, and I got very courteous attention, but I wonder if they'll be in the sub-compact market for the long-haul or are prepared to deal with vagaries of home owners' concerns. For example, the salesman said when they got the first GC, they laughed and sent it back. They ordered one for a customer, though, and have sold 7 since July. The salesman had acquired some respect for the machine (same engine as the 1423, BTW), but still didn't quite know what to think. On a side note, entering into the tire religious wars, he mentioned in passing that he personally mows his lawn with a good-sided tractor with R1s, with no problems whatsoever.

I looked over the M-F compacts. They seem more aimed at the industrial market. Liked the Kubota Bs better in that category.

I appreciate everyone's comments. I'm trying to think this one through carefully.

Bill
 
   / 2 Acres, landscaping, and a tractor #12  
Yankee,
I started out with about a $5,000 budget and ended up with my B7500/FEL/BH, Bearcat chipper and pallet forks. Talk about blowing a budget..... The reality is that a tractor opens the door to a lot of opportunities. It is a major investment and should be thought out carefully. I don't regret a thing I have purchased. Sometimes I think bigger would be better and then all I have to do is remember all those tight places I wouldn't be able to get a bigger tractor into. Anyway.... regarding backhoes, I did a post a while ago about backhoes. Here is the link Backhoes aren't just for ditches It resulted in some pretty good discussion. It really is a lot easier to cost justify on paper to just rent one. My position is that the value of owning one is to be able to use it for all the "little" projects that just come up all the time. You can really get creative with them. They are a finesse piece of equipment that will allow you to do some delicate work that a FEL will not do. Basically, if you're on the fence, this is a gentle nudge to push you in that direction. Of course,..... it's easy to spend other peoples money. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Greg
 
   / 2 Acres, landscaping, and a tractor #13  
If you go with a 3-point mower then I agree that you might as well move up to the B7500. The BX MMM is increadible, an excellent performer and very easy to remove and install. The BX is very manuverable and does a great job as a lawn mower. The deck is fully suspended unlike the decks on the B7500 which are ground contact type. The BX23 with the 60 inch MMM is an awesome multipupose machine that could do everything your 2 acres really needs. J
 
   / 2 Acres, landscaping, and a tractor #14  
Bill, I believe if you used the quarter inching valve you would enjoy it more than the position control as it is easier to fine tune on the move. I've used both with far more years with the position control but after playing with two near identical tractors with box blades give me the Quarter inching system and the newer style lift system than the antiquated position control. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
   / 2 Acres, landscaping, and a tractor #15  
Art..... could you please elaborate on the details of the BX quarter inching valve? Is this something new on the BX or was it always available? Can it be retrofitted to the older BX models? Cost & availability? thanks & Happy Holidays to everyone....
 
   / 2 Acres, landscaping, and a tractor
  • Thread Starter
#16  
I wasn't aware that the BX HAD a quarter inching control. In fact, that's one of the attractions of the 7610.

Yankee Bill
 
   / 2 Acres, landscaping, and a tractor #17  
The BX does not have PC or the quarter inching valve unless it is new for this season. Position control is favored over the quarter inching in any case and has extremely fine control and repeatability unlike quarter inching or no control at all. I do wish they would add PC to the BX but as much as I use it on my 2410 dang if I never knew what I was missing on the BX. It did fine without it. J
 
   / 2 Acres, landscaping, and a tractor #18  
<font color="blue"> Bill, I believe if you used the BX quarter inching valve you would enjoy it more than the position control as it is easier to fine tune on the move. </font>

Why would this be so?

Now I am by no means an expert on the subject, but I do have position control on my B2910...and I assumed that it would give me essentially the same control as the quarter inching control does, plus the added advantage of repeatability if I want it. And I do want repeatability occasionally, like when I use the postion control to set the height of the brush hog at the front.

And I can move the 3ph up and/or down slightly with a small movement of the postion control lever...

It just seems like the quarter inching control gives nothing over the postion control but does lack repeatability as TresCrows says...you did say that, right TresCrows?

Art, could you expand a little on your statement?

Do you really think position control is antiquated? I can't believe it is...but what do I know? /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
 
   / 2 Acres, landscaping, and a tractor #19  
Sorry, but I made an error on that. They don't offer it but just thinking of the system it could be done I think. This might be something good! Trescrows, I can only think of one area or type of work that it would be advantages to use the position control over the 1/4 inching valve that I can come up with.
 
   / 2 Acres, landscaping, and a tractor #20  
Trescrows, I can only think of one area or type of work that it would be advantages to use the position control over the 1/4 inching valve that I can come up with. "

OK, because I can think of dozens, I don't want a quarter inching valve, I want PC--period /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif. Sorry, but that is my preference and I am willing to pay the extra price for it. Either would be a grateful addition to the BX and neither is retrofittable to the BX to my knowledge /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif.
Merry Christmas /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif. J
 

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