Oil & Fuel #2 heating oil, Road diesel, or K1 kerosene

JimR · Dec 19, 2004

The last time I filled my cans with home heating fuel for the tractor I was shocked. After draining the cans into the tractor there was quite a bit of sediment in the bottom of both cans. I talked with my oil man this week about that sediment. He stated that heating oil has sediment in it. How many of you guys change your own oil filters on your oil tank for your home heating system? Mine is always crapped up with black sludge after a years worth of oil is run thru it. Deisel does not have this sediment in it.

PineRidge · Dec 19, 2004

Jim sorry but I'm not buying that. If New Holland thought diesel was clean they whouldn't have us changing fuel filters every 200 hours of operation.

shadled · Dec 19, 2004

Has anyone ever heard of buying Diesel at a fuel station and being exempt from the road tax because you placed the fuel in a ie. 55 gal. drum?

TV372 · Dec 19, 2004

Brad I am running #2 desiel in the DX45 I got from Bob. I use Power Service anti gell fuel conditioner I get a case of it at NAPA for the winter. I have been using Power Service for 3 + year in my trucks and tractor. Have not had an icing or gell up. One quart is ussually good for 100 gallons of fuel. I ussally ad half a bottle to my 40gal. transfer tank when I fill it up. There are also special additives for when you have gell ups.

Brands I have used
Power Service (Napa)
Howes Lubricator ( CT. Driveshaft now Fleetpride in WTBY)
Standine

brad_oatley · Dec 19, 2004

TV, by#2 diesel do you mean home heating fuel or road diesel?

JerryG · Dec 19, 2004

Has anyone ever heard of buying Diesel at a fuel station and being exempt from the road tax because you placed the fuel in a ie. 55 gal. drum? 
I don't know if I understand what you are wanting or not, but stations in my area have off-road diesel pumps that don't have road tax.

JimR · Dec 19, 2004

( Jim sorry but I'm not buying that. If New Holland thought diesel was clean they whouldn't have us changing fuel filters every 200 hours of operation. )

I'm not saying that diesel is clean. I'm saying that diesel is a lot cleaner than home heating oil is. My oil man says the same thing. My cans do not have sediment in it if I fill them with diesel at the local station. So there must be a difference in the two. JD and any other manufacturer will tell you to change filters and what not because they make money on parts. My Cub manual states yearly or as needed. Why do places like Oil Doctor tell you to change your oil every 3000 miles or 3 months. They stick a sticker on the windshield that has the next mileage due and a date 3 months later. This is so the un-informed owner can throw money out the window in 3000 miles. I'm still running my original fuel filter in my wife's Acura 95k. The 95 Honda we owned never had it changed either. I only had 115K when it was totalled. My old 1995 S-10 had one filter change in 175K when I sold it. I changed it when the fuel pump let go at 150K. I realize that gas is different than diesel. I'll post a picture of an oil tank filter the next time I change one. The folks here can be the judge as to the crud it catches from home heating oil.

AndyMA · Dec 19, 2004

I've never heard of not paying tax if you put fuel in a 55 gallon drum. I am the Gm of an Oil Distributor here in Mass and we pick up most of our fuel in Providence. To buy clear untaxed diesel we have to pay the 22cent a gallon tax at the time of wholesale purchase. Home heating oil and off road diesel come from the same tanks and do not contain any noticable sediment. I would not sell clear untaxed fuel without charging the tax as I have to pay it when I pick up the fuel.

Andy

JimR · Dec 19, 2004

( Home heating oil and off road diesel come from the same tanks and do not contain any noticable sediment.

Andy )

Andy,

Are there companies out there selling dirty fuel? I guess the on road diesel comes from a seperate tank.

Jimbrown · Dec 19, 2004

yes. but it depends on where you buy it and what state and county you are in. If I buy it from any of the large stations they don't have a clue. But if I buy it from the guy out in the middle of nowhere who sell to farmers and ranchers he does not charge all of the tax. It seems he has to collect part of it. Which part I do not know. I simply do not buy enough to worry about it.