2 in receiver shackle/ clevis for tow straps and chains

   / 2 in receiver shackle/ clevis for tow straps and chains
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#21  
If you need a strap/rope, it's because a tug on a chain won't do the task at hand. So,, what becomes necessary is to multiply the weight of the tow vehicle by stretching a strap/rope. That is done by backing up until you have slack and hitting the end of it as fast as you can. If that does not work, back up a little farther, if that does not work, back up a little farther...... With a 30' rope hooked to a 5Klb vehicle how much force can be generated when you take a 30' running start???? Evidently enough to exert more than 52,000lbs of pulling force. Pretty simple actually. That's why I'm suggesting to you that a 2" strap needs to stay in the Grocery Getter.
Yeah I definitely understand how much more multiplication a stretchable strap or rope makes compared to a normal pull with a chain. That being said I found out most people in Indiana think a chain will multiply more force. I grew up using stretchable straps. I yank pretty hard on them really.

I see people around here yank on chains gives me a headache!!! Ouch!!!
 
   / 2 in receiver shackle/ clevis for tow straps and chains #22  
Regarding chains, make sure they are in good shape. I've seen chains wore down from trying to tow vehicles. The chains used in towing vehicles down the road often drag on the roadway wearing them down quickly.
 
   / 2 in receiver shackle/ clevis for tow straps and chains #23  
Not tryin to pick a fight. Just need to clarify this.

A chain is the safest of three, chain, cable, stretch strap/rope. Chain will drop to the ground if broken.

Cable will recoil enough to make it dangerous. Safe way is to throw a coat or blanket over the cable somewhere in the middle. The weight of it will cause the cable to fall to the ground rather than swing in the air.

Stretch strap/rope is the most dangerous to use. If the ends stay fastened and it simply fails in the middle, it'll recoil but will do little damage because there's no weight.

Also, never use a chain with a rope. Never use a strap/rope with hooks on the end. Never use a steel clevis to fasten two straps/ropes together. All of those things become missiles if things go bad. Never stand in the recoil path of anything. Never allow spectators to be any closer than the length of the tow device.

Use a strap/rope enough times and you will see things go bad. Winch/Pull safely Gentleman, someone's life depends on it!!!!

So with all that said, cobble up a receiver shackle/clevis or buy a cheap one and you just increased your chances of failure and possibly injury.

This is my understanding as well, at least chain vs the nylon straps. It's due to the stretch. Add a piece of metal to the end like a ratchet strap's hook end and you have an even more dangerous flying object.

That being said, I have a big strap I use for recovery on the skid loader/tractor/truck, I think it's a 3" or 4" rated for 30k and quite heavy duty. To get the same length and weight rating in chain would be expensive, heavy and a complete pain to store.

Ive always been a big fan of ratchet straps and nylon, though with a tractor, skid loader and a bunch of stuff to play with, I'm finding chain more and more useful. I have four 14' chains, two of which I have joined to make one 28' chain primarily use them for rigging things like attachments to pick up. I took a 1/2" steel cable I had laying around with two loop ends and picked up my KK 6' tiller, and as I went to put it down on the running gear I saw the eye had pulled loose and it was barely held on by anything never messed around after that!
 
   / 2 in receiver shackle/ clevis for tow straps and chains #24  
Regarding chains, make sure they are in good shape. I've seen chains wore down from trying to tow vehicles. The chains used in towing vehicles down the road often drag on the roadway wearing them down quickly.

I've got two 16' x 3/8" grade 70 chains that have been pulled on so hard they won't lay in a pile anymore. They are laying in the scrap iron pile. :)
 
   / 2 in receiver shackle/ clevis for tow straps and chains #25  
Ive always been a big fan of ratchet straps and nylon, though with a tractor, skid loader and a bunch of stuff to play with, I'm finding chain more and more useful.

Rachets straps are not designed to stretch. I never use a rachet strap to tow or pull something. I don't like the idea of the 5lb rachet flying around.

I've also got two nylon rigging ropes. I use them to secure snatch blocks when trying to winch my Buggy out of a bad situation. They have no stretch either. Sometimes when a group is around I have to use my rigging ropes to get length. I always tell everyone several times that they do not stretch. Can't tell by looking at them. Don't want someone to think they are using a stretch rope and back up and hit it!!! :)
 
   / 2 in receiver shackle/ clevis for tow straps and chains #26  
In a situation like this everyone needs to know what kind of pulling device is being used!!!! :)


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   / 2 in receiver shackle/ clevis for tow straps and chains #27  
Or this.


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   / 2 in receiver shackle/ clevis for tow straps and chains #28  
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   / 2 in receiver shackle/ clevis for tow straps and chains #29  
ovrszd, I think your nuts using a chain to pull with but please be careful.


With that being said, we have a company policy that your fired on the spot for using a chain to tow with except for making a connection at the vehicle. If you happen to be in a situation where you have more than enough traction to pull the vehicle/object out with, I don't see a problem with a chain because a slow steady pull can be applied. If you have to tug on anything, a chain would be a terrible idea. A strap may break and recoil, but I'll tell you what, I'd rather be hit with a strap than a chain anyday. The clevis/shackle that you make the connection with should be stronger than the strap/rope you are pulling with to prevent the slingshot effect with a heavy metal obkect. If you have doubts about the strength of the strap, tie a jacket or zip tie a floor mat around it.


I have a 2" 30klb tow strap that I pull vehicles out with. Anything bigger than a pickup and the Amsteel Blue comes out. Its 1 1/8" synthetic rope. Breaking strength is somewhere over 100k lbs. We used to use it underground as a safer option to wire ropes and man is it impressive. You can throw 50' of it over your shoulder and prolly break into a run if you wanted. I have seen it break as well. It DROPS TO THE GROUND. Absolutely 0 recoil.
 
   / 2 in receiver shackle/ clevis for tow straps and chains #30  
ovrszd, I think your nuts using a chain to pull with but please be careful.


With that being said, we have a company policy that your fired on the spot for using a chain to tow with except for making a connection at the vehicle. If you happen to be in a situation where you have more than enough traction to pull the vehicle/object out with, I don't see a problem with a chain because a slow steady pull can be applied. If you have to tug on anything, a chain would be a terrible idea. A strap may break and recoil, but I'll tell you what, I'd rather be hit with a strap than a chain anyday. The clevis/shackle that you make the connection with should be stronger than the strap/rope you are pulling with to prevent the slingshot effect with a heavy metal obkect. If you have doubts about the strength of the strap, tie a jacket or zip tie a floor mat around it.


I have a 2" 30klb tow strap that I pull vehicles out with. Anything bigger than a pickup and the Amsteel Blue comes out. Its 1 1/8" synthetic rope. Breaking strength is somewhere over 100k lbs. We used to use it underground as a safer option to wire ropes and man is it impressive. You can throw 50' of it over your shoulder and prolly break into a run if you wanted. I have seen it break as well. It DROPS TO THE GROUND. Absolutely 0 recoil.

I'm not sure what I said that would make you think a chain is what I primarily use to pull with?? I carry chains on my tractor. But we don't use them for wheeling. We use winch cable or stretch strap/rope or rigging rope.
 

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