-20 and did I hurt my 2210?

   / -20 and did I hurt my 2210? #11  
Not to sound like I'm bragging or anything but -20 is nothing. When we had our last snowstorm go through we had windchills of -50 howling. Stupid old me sitting on the 2320 trying to blow out the major drift out of the driveway so I could park the van. Move to Canada anyone?
 
   / -20 and did I hurt my 2210? #12  
jdl said:
Not to sound like I'm bragging or anything but -20 is nothing. When we had our last snowstorm go through we had windchills of -50 howling. Stupid old me sitting on the 2320 trying to blow out the major drift out of the driveway so I could park the van. Move to Canada anyone?

-20 is something. And windchill is not a factor for the tractor, only for you, the tractor isn't affected.
 
   / -20 and did I hurt my 2210? #13  
I'll brag. Steamboat Springs, CO winter of '90 - '91. 40 below every night 5 days straight. 30 above and sunny, everyday :)

I was the pizza delivery guy, 1978 Jeep Cherokee Chief, think I was getting 3 mpg :rolleyes:


Too cold for me, I left
 
   / -20 and did I hurt my 2210?
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#14  
Ok, clarification then; winter oil means I have 15w40 in it now, probably should have 10w30, but it hasn't been this cold in years so who knew?
And the biodiesel, I use the only non taxed off road fuel I can find in the area which at the local co-op is 20% beans. I believe Minnesota is going to go to mandatory 20% bio diesel soon.
 
   / -20 and did I hurt my 2210? #15  
biggerten said:
-20 is something. And windchill is not a factor for the tractor, only for you, the tractor isn't affected.
Actually yes your tractor is affected by windchill. When you feel cold, actually a loss of heat is what you're feeling. Exposed skin freezes much more quickly than covered skin. Your tractor with it's exposed engine block, hydraulic lines etc are no different than your skin in regard to heat loss. Plug your tractor in and it will start with no problem out of the wind in -20. Try starting the same tractor in -20 with a 40 mph wind and it likely won't start.
 
   / -20 and did I hurt my 2210? #16  
I have to agree with JDL on this one! There is a difference in how cars, and tractors start, run, and function when they are kept out of the wind, v.s. being left outside when it is really cold. It may not sound like it makes sense, but I have lived in NH long enough to know that it is certainly true!
 
   / -20 and did I hurt my 2210? #17  
Wind chill is the equivalent temp at which a body above ambient temperature will lose heat. As soon as ambient temperature is reached it does not get colder.:D
 
   / -20 and did I hurt my 2210? #18  
I run AMSOIL synthetic tractor hydraulic oil in my 2210 along with the M1 5W30 engine oil and the loader and rear blade are much more responsive after initial startup. With the std oil it would take a few minutes for the hyd. to act "normal". Also synthetic gear lube for the front axle.

Switching to syn didn't cost much more and it makes a huge difference in the winter for the hyd functions. And if there is less resistance I figure the lubrication must be better, too. (At least I'd like to hope so.)
 
   / -20 and did I hurt my 2210? #19  
Egon, probably if we put an indoor / outdoor thermometer in our unheated sheds we would find that the temperature inside was just a bit warmer than outside. The end result, of course, is the same.
 
   / -20 and did I hurt my 2210? #20  
Wind chill is kind of complicated, it's designed to estimate the "feel" of the effective temperature to human skin based on the ambient temperature and the wind speed. This involves two processes - one is that evaporation of liquids will suck the energy out of a system (it's an endothermic process) and makes it colder. Unless you've installed sweat glands in your tractor this is not likely to be a factor :)

However, anything that radiates heat will tend to build a "thermal boundary layer" around itself - this is true for warm-blooded critters like us people or for engines. This barrier allows the temperatures to increase faster, but a strong wind will blow it away. As an example of this, disconnect your radiator fan in the summer. The heat will build up because there's no "wind chill" to blow away the boundary layer.

In short, you're both right. Tractors are indeed affected by wind chill because a thermal boundary layer would allow the engine to reach a viable operating temperature much faster. However, the exact value of the wind chill is pretty meaningless when you're comparing something made from metal and plastic vs. something made of flesh and blood. You can make this point moot by blocking all air circulation around the tractor, wrapping it in moving blankets and stretch wrap will help it warm up faster but you'd look awful silly...

Of course, this only applies to something that's radiating heat, a tractor that's parked in the wind will be the same temperature as a tractor that's shielded from the wind. But don't discount fluid dynamics, strong winds will change the way air is introduced into the engine. In some cases it may force more air in like a supercharger, in others it will reduce the pressure and make the engine work harder for air.

I still think the best solution is to just avoid those temperatures altogether - I need to turn up the thermostat when I read these threads!
 

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